返回   华枫论坛 > ◆生活板块◆ > 汽车天下



发表新主题 回复
 
查看全部 主题工具
旧 May 6th, 2007, 17:59     #1
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: 小艺 查看帖子
你做的调查的确很有帮助,我想楼主一定会很感激你,而且对我们也很有启发。但是从实际操作来讲,楼主提都不...
严重支持小艺的观点.

在这种路段, 正常情况, 车应行驶在路中线和路牙的中间. 踩刹车减速并靠向路牙, 即使未打右灯,未完全停死, 后车观察前方无障碍, 只能让后车判断你是PULL OVER , 放弃了路权,这时, 后车肯定超车.

前车由正常速度减到20-30, 又靠到路边, 后车开50, 加角油, 就能超过去, 只能说, LZ没加油, 给了前车撞上你的时间, 处理不果断, 批评.

我的分为什么涨的那么慢?
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 6th, 2007, 18:20     #2
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

LZ 再想想, 前车减速靠边时, 离你多远, 有没有踩刹车?

估计当时前车在打电话, 发现方向错了, 先想靠边, 马上又想U TURN, 一急, 根本没观察.

这种路面, 我如想U TURN, 会打左灯, 靠中线停, 对面没车, 就可以转. 我后边的车,可以从我右边通过, 我没有影响他们的正常行驶.

行驶中, 如果要做动作, 一定要打灯号, 让后车了解你的意图.

见过到路口, 先踩刹车, 再打转向的, 感觉很讨厌. 我要知道你要转弯, 我早变线超车了.

总之, 与人方便, 自己方便.
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 6th, 2007, 18:32     #3
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: 至尊宝 查看帖子
这种情况就跟在路上急刹车一样,说前车不应该,但是后车的责任是100%.
如果前车无故急刹车, 后车撞上了, 谁的责任?
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 6th, 2007, 18:49     #4
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: 举目有亲 查看帖子
路权是绝对的,没有相对路权一说。行使路权要合理,例如在限速60的正常交通的路上开3、40就会严重阻碍交通,䮮.
在这种路段, 正常情况, 车应行驶在路中线和路牙的中间. 踩刹车减速并靠向路牙, 即使未打右灯,未完全停死, 后车观察前方无障碍, 只能让后车判断前车是PULL OVER , 放弃了路权,这时, 后车肯定超车.

如果你的观点不同, 拿出官方文件来, 否则, 路上的车都是这么开的.
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 6th, 2007, 19:01     #5
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: iga 查看帖子
U-Turn相对于对面或是侧面的车没有优先权,相对于后面的车总还有优先权吧。那是条单线的路,前面怎么开都有优...
没有. U TURN 先要PULL OVER, 要打右灯, 向右靠, 减速, 你已非正常行驶, 哪来的路权。只能等后面车光了, 你才能转.

除非, 先打左灯, 再往右靠, 后者才知道你要U TURN, 会减速让你.

我觉的U TURN , 可以靠左边, 打左灯, 后车以为你左转, 从你右边过, 你也只要观察对面就好, 万一没转过来, 再来个三点掉头. 比较安全.
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 6th, 2007, 19:07     #6
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: 举目有亲 查看帖子
问题是你无法证明对方放弃路权了。

对方并没有象你说的靠边停下来,而是正在行驶中。同样行驶中的汽车,彮..
50-60 的速度转弯?
你疯了, 比我还疯.
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 6th, 2007, 19:12     #7
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: 举目有亲 查看帖子
楼主判断失误。

对方只是向右偏转,并未pull over,起码你无法证明这一点。此时你无权超越,要不然就不会发甮..
你可真强,JIANG.

没见我问LZ, 她的刹车灯吗,她肯定减速了, 她减速, 向右靠, 我只能认为, 她PULL OVER, 忘了, 或者不想打灯.
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 6th, 2007, 19:20     #8
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: iga 查看帖子
楼主也是这么认为的,所以才有这个麻烦。
LZ 忘了描述她的刹车灯了. 关键哪.!!!!
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 6th, 2007, 19:22     #9
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

如果, 她没刹车, 速度只减了5-10的话, 我认为LZ不会想超车.
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 6th, 2007, 19:26     #10
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: 爱因思念 查看帖子
老杨同志言简意赅一针见血通俗易懂,撞了咱车屁股,就她的错,分析那么多有P用~~回头有了结果汇报一下
爱因思念就是LZ? 两马甲?
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 6th, 2007, 20:47     #11
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: 爱因思念 查看帖子
我是女嫡~~LZ是男嫡~~~我是说让LZ有了结果汇报一下,看看双方谁胜利了,男人啊,遇到撞车这事,瞧你们那个兴奋吵架劮..
sorry , sorry, 新来的, 您别见怪.
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 6th, 2007, 20:56     #12
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: 爱因思念 查看帖子
不见怪~~以后多往我这拜拜码头吧
我就在车谈混, 您老管哪片?

http://www.chinasmile.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=245508

拙文, 请指教.
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 6th, 2007, 21:33     #13
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: VENTURE1 查看帖子
我当时是想双方协商解决这个事故 , 因为双方的车损坏不严重 ,最多一方 5-6百 。 但是她当时立即打了电话报告...
看以前的帖子, 去了 COLLISON CENTER 之后, 也可以私了.

问题是那女的想不想报, 她想报, 你不报, 也没用.

把你准备和保险公司的说辞, 和那女的说说, 如果她能接受, 同意是她的责任, 她就不会报了.

你有她的电话吗? 你的英语如何? 不行, 先把要说的写下来, 念给她听.

关键是她得承认她有错, 报了保险公司, 对她也不利. 否则, 都是白扯.

再想想.

大家都干吗哪? 支招啊.
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 6th, 2007, 21:42     #14
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: VENTURE1 查看帖子
真的没人知道吗?
对了, 事情处理经过, 要回来汇报啊.
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 6th, 2007, 22:01     #15
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: 小艺 查看帖子
现在的情形是对方坚持认为你全责,连50-50都谈不拢,你还等什么?争取主动,就能争取到无责。
不要去想象50-50...
保险公司愿意50-50, 来年能涨两个人的保险.

用你100%无责任的说法, 说付不了保险公司, 但对对方也许能起作用. 或者, 她也找人支着了, 现在想法变了, 也不一定. 不试验不知道.

同意先沟通, 私了.
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 6th, 2007, 22:21     #16
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: magic_tang 查看帖子
不是不出主意,问题在于楼主认定是对方责任,对方肯定又是认定是你的责任,否则她不会立即报保险。这种情况...
除了最后一句, 全部同意. 挑双指. (大拇指.)
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 7th, 2007, 08:45     #17
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: YXYK 查看帖子
前年我在高速路上(两个方向都是单车道), 看到前面的车减速但没有打灯, 于是换到对面的车道准备超车. 哪知她也䮮.
又是个转弯不打灯的. 要是打灯了, 不就没事了.

女司机真够呛.
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 7th, 2007, 21:15     #18
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: moccafirst 查看帖子
但是前车也没有打灯说要右转呀!(只是楼主判断前车要右转或者u turn)我觉得楼主在没有很确定的情况下在单车...
就因为有车距, LZ加速慢, 才被撞上的.

有些人, 明明不懂交规, 却就是相信自己有理. 象上文中的那女的. 看来只好让保险公司收拾她了. 这种人不可教也.
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 7th, 2007, 23:04     #19
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

一下车就嚷嚷着:you suddently come,where did you come?

那女的根本没观察. 这句话对楼主绝对有利. 那女的就是CARELESS DRING. 一定和保险公司坚持那女的100%责任.
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
旧 May 7th, 2007, 23:07     #20
wanganxu888
Senior Member
级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时级别:15 | 在线时长:311小时 | 升级还需:9小时
 
注册日期: Jan 2005
帖子: 773
积分:6
精华:2
声望: 1665347
wanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond reputewanganxu888 has a reputation beyond repute
默认

引用:
作者: 举目有亲 查看帖子
否则的话如果她不打右转信号难道后车永远等着?

-----------------------------------------

我就知道你们理解点就错圮..
照你的说法, 你在道上开20, 别人也不能超你了?
wanganxu888 当前离线  
回复时引用此帖
发表新主题 回复


发帖规则
不可以发表新主题
不可以发表回复
不可以上传附件
不可以编辑自己的帖子

启用 BB 代码
论坛启用 表情符号
论坛启用 [IMG] 代码
论坛禁用 HTML 代码



所有时间均为格林尼治时间 -4。现在的时间是 21:50

请尊重文章原创者,转帖请注明来源及原作者。
凡是本站用户自行发布的任何信息,皆不代表本站的立场,
华枫网站不确保各类信息的正确性和可靠性,也不承担由此而导致的任何直接或间接损失以及任何法律责任。

Copyright © 1999-2024 Chinasmile