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旧 Jan 25th, 2006, 13:35     #1
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你是在贬低有门? 人家可是没有对不住谁,他是凭技术和经验说话。
有门大侠也没有囤积二手丰田本田, 不怕没有下家肯高价接手............

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在苍茫的大海上,狂风卷集着乌云。在乌云和大海之间,流狼像黑色的闪电,在高傲地飞翔......
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有门大侠和GOGO对同一车型的评价有天地之别。
非常非常重要的一条:

当有门大侠和丑狗大叔对某一车型出现意见分歧, 以有门大侠的为准, 将丑狗大叔丢进废纸篓再踩上一脚......
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I 'v being told you all long time ago that if you want to drive US car, you have to know how to repair it and prepare to get a dirty black hands all the time.
至于这么夸张吗? 美国车会坏的这么严重? 我三千块钱TAURUS才进门的时候是全部彻底检查维护了一遍, 但现在我都想不出有什么能搞的了, 双手白白嫩嫩没黑没污好多天了, 闲的只能登广告到处找车修.............
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Not 双手白白嫩嫩没黑没污好多天了, but 双手白白嫩嫩没黑没污好多years了
舍得去车行贡献金钱, 自然可保白白嫩嫩好多years

别忘了, 本狗开过三年COROLLA也是喜欢自己动手, 开过五年NISSAN也是自己动手, 黑是一样黑, 污是一样污, 这就是what I'm talking about..............
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As what you 'v said about your US Machine, GOGOGO will think you are very lucky because you have a so called "Never Stop Machine". Congratulations!
好吧, 我们来看份正式的J.D. POWER的质量长期跟踪报告, 在过去三年内(2002-2005), 平均每一百辆车, 各个牌子到底REPORT了多少个问题了呢?

答案是: TOYOTA 194个问题, HONDA 201个问题, FORD 231个问题, CHRYSLER 235个问题, 质量是有差距的, 但是并非天地之别, 平均1.94个问题一辆车, 或者平均2.35个问题一辆车, 应该不会造成黑手白手的巨大区别吧

那么GM的数据呢? 嘿嘿, GM集团比较巨大, 属下牌子众多, BUICK, CADILLAC都是位于前5名, 其中的中档车品牌BUICK以区区163个问题, 领先了TOYOTA好几名

详细报告:
http://www.cartest.ca/2005_most_reliable_vehicles.htm

还有CNN的新闻 "Fact check: Are American cars really that bad?" :
http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/23/Autos/american_cars/

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GOGOGO has so different skill, experience and interest, his opinions are only fit for himself, which means if you follow his suggestion to buy a car, you will get yourself into a very big trouble that cause you lose money, time and frustrated, and most important thing is after all of that, you don't even know who should you complain to.
鲁莽电工 has good skill, experience and interest, his opinions are not only fit for himself, which means if you follow him to buy a car, you wouldn't get any trouble and you won't lose money, time and frustrated, and most important thing is if you have any problem in future, you could complain to 鲁莽电工 and he would full pay for your loss without any hesitating............
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GOGOGO is 100% right.

Now, my suggestion is:
1) Buy a new car from dealer
2) Buy extra full warranty at the same time when you buy the car, for example 7-10 years one
3) Once your warranty expired, then you can have two choices:
a. Sell it to people like GOGOGO, who likes to fix car problems by themselves and you buy another new car.
b. Make yourself a person like GOGOGO, who can fix problems by yourself and keep you old car and enjoy the work.

So, if you still can have any complain, that must be complain to yourself about didn't listen to my suggestion
a bad guy, Buy 7-10 years extra full warranty............., hahaha

"Sell it to people like GOGOGO" is impossible and will never can be ture, because 10 years old Camry is still very very expensive, more than doubled price of my 10 years old Taurus. From my view, IT IS A CAR, they are same and no difference to me at all, why do I pay more for same thing?

BTW, be careful of any extra full warranty, you have to pay money to a qualified dealer to do service within this 10 years to maintain the warranty valid
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Sure, you have to do maintainence to your car even you don't have that warranty. And at dealer's shop, the price is listed cheaper than other normal shop, but probably expensive than some self-employed guys who said that they can fix your car.

Camry only ask for change oil each 8000km or 6 months driving. I even think it's too less.

My suggestion is: Pay money to licensed dealer and get professional service, which is the right way to save money
1. At dealer's shop, the price is not listed cheaper than other normal shop, especially licensed chinese garage

2. Goto licensed chinese garage to get the right advice about "Camry only ask for change oil each 8000km or 6 months driving. I even think it's too less."

3. I don't know any other self-employed car guy, but I know GoGoGo only maintains his own two cars + his closest friend's Accord. If you ask GoGoGo to do oil change, he would charge you $30 labor + oil + filter which is much more expensive than any dealer's professional service. GoGoGo is interested in investigating 灵异 problem actually, he may asked $15/hour for his time after he fixed the problem, if you only want free lunch, don't bother him
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作者: wowchina
电工同志的意思很清楚:日本车就是好,好的不得了,好的没话说。为啥好?原因很简单:因为是日本车,理由“莫须有”。
你说这话什么居心? 电工同志花了大半年时间做了很多调查研究, 你凭什么说他没有理由!
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