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想在北美卖full size pickup truck必备的技术是什么?答案是:骂人!你污蔑对手的技能越高,挖苦的能力越强,你的车可能就卖得越好。

典型的例子就是Chevrolet Silverado/GMC Sierra(2007 truck of the year)对于竞争对手们的诬蔑讽刺,即使从一个Chevy的粉丝的角度来看,也是很难以接受的。GM雇佣了一个玩橄榄球的车盲Howie Long来作为代言人,又找来了一些傻瓜来做“托”,演绎了如下闹剧:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGI8IRXRqpo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cagPZ...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgVYO...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYNFX...eature=related

在此系列中Howie Long把F-150的辅助阶梯,Ram的加热方向盘这种人性化的设计都污蔑的一文不值,就更不用说Tundra的油耗和Highlander的尺寸了。不过Chevy的确是有很多可圈可点之处的,比如AFM节油闭缸技术,rear-locker differential,Hybrid model选择,auto-grade braking,leaf suspension with hydraulic body mount,6速变速器等等,空气动力学方面也不错。

骂人谁不会,F-150在经过技术革新,重整旗鼓之后,以迅雷不及掩耳盗铃的速度隆重推出了Truth about Trucks系列,把Chevy,Tundra和Ram都污蔑的一塌糊涂。福特的代言人在视频中不时地发出一阵阵恐怖的奸笑,更令人哭笑不得的是,视频中福特给自己自封了一个头衔:The Market Leader......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N8dH...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...rch_type=&aq=f

Dodge Ram也不甘落后,09年推出了Ram vs Competition系列,搬起石头就往Chevy和Ford头上砸:
http://www.dodge.com/en/2009/ram_150...s_competition/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAFY9kiOpt4

总结一下,美系各家各有千秋,Chevy/GMC有着价低廉的价格,长久的可靠性,较高的resale value,较轻的车体,低油耗等等;F-150具有豪华的内置,一流的制作材料和科技含量,最周到和人性化的设计,最结实的骨架(full box frame);Ram具有宽大的内部空间,很好的加速性和handling,较高的马力以及towing capacity。如果你是私人买家,那么Chevy和Ford是你最好的选择,如果是建筑工地的fleet buyer,那么Dodge Ram更合适些。

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顶!期待后续介绍,下一辆车锁定TRUCK。原先看好SILVERADO/SIERRA,不过后来觉得现在的款式很容易感到视觉疲劳,不如F-150或TOYOTA TACOMA耐看。可靠性来说,TACOMA似乎更好点。
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顶!期待后续介绍,下一辆车锁定TRUCK。原先看好SILVERADO/SIERRA,不过后来觉得现在的款式很容易感到视觉疲劳,不如F-150或TOYOTA TACOMA耐看。可靠性来说,TACOMA似乎更好点。
实话实说,Silverado不思进取已经落后了,虽然07年是truck of the year,但是现在再评比best full size pickup恐怕一点戏也没有。

相比之下F-150做了很多有意义的工作,是当今最有希望的truck。Tundra和Titan对北美市场觊觎已久,虎视眈眈,也都不是吃醋的角色。

另外关于中型truck,基本就是Ranger (戏称F-75),Colorado,Dakota,Frontier和Tacoma这些,以后再作评论。
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想在北美卖full size pickup truck必备的技术是什么?答案是:骂人!你污蔑对手的技能越高,挖苦的能力越强,你的车可能就卖得越好。

典型的例子就是Chevrolet Silverado/GMC Sierra(2007 truck of the year)对于竞争对手们的诬蔑讽刺,即...
不要忘了F系列里还有250, 350. fleet卖的很好
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很可惜, 最"烂"的卖的最好,那些不那么烂的只有破产重组,这就是北美。
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曾经的最烂是Dodge Ram;近些年改进了不少,不那么烂了。现在最烂pickup的实际上是Honda Ridgeline(姑且算它是个pickup),我在帖子里都懒得提它。05年以前的F-150电路问题很多很烦人,但真正的powertrain问题并不多;Chevy就没这个毛病,所以受的批评少些。
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不要忘了F系列里还有250, 350. fleet卖的很好
250,350,450 Super Duty等等只是在payload上有差异而已,Chevy和Dodge是以1500,2500,3500这样的方式区分的。一般家庭/小生意/建筑装修人员用150或1500级别的就够了。
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前一阵子回国,在首都机场看到一辆TUNDRA,朋友说很猛。如果搞辆2011 FORD SD在路上开开,估计能吸引大堆眼球,呵呵!
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国内好像不允许pickup进入市里吧?郊区可能没问题。

Tundra看着很猛,主要原因是他们的cab很大(比如那个crew max,比一般的美系crew cab大)。但是由于不是fully boxed frame所以不如Ford结实;但是日本人的解释是,open C channel结构更容易消散外界的冲撞力(有点打太极拳的意思),在长远角度看对车的durability有利。福特的那个Silvercreek的路段测试,估计普通pickup司机一辈子也遇不到;Tundra如同妓女般扭动的大屁股,只能在电视里看到。
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曾经的最烂是Dodge Ram;近些年改进了不少,不那么烂了。现在最烂pickup的实际上是Honda Ridgeline(姑且算它是个pickup),我在帖子里都懒得提它。05年以前的F-150电路问题很多很烦人,但真正的powertrain问题并不多;Chevy就没这个毛病,所以受的批评少些。
为什么最烂是HONDA?说给俺们听听嘛,还有那个马自达,路上也有好多的,好像也懒得提了。
记得以前单位有个丰田的人货车,耐用,所有人都开,没有人喜欢它,是部共用车。
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记得以前单位有个丰田的人货车,耐用,所有人都开,没有人喜欢它,是部共用车。

这样耐用耐操的才是好车呢...
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