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旧 Jul 10th, 2006, 21:38     #1
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[QUOTE=︻︻▅▆▇◤]想自己刷一下房间,但到rono一看,空手而归,品种很多,作用不同,还是回来问明白再说:

1,哪里的油漆价格比较合理?
油漆一般也是一分钱一分货.就看你是给自己家刷还是租的房子.好的漆的覆盖能力好,不用刷太多遍,好刷,防污力好.......自己家用建议用中档以上的.租的房子就随便你自己了.

2,有很多品牌,室内用哪种品牌的性价比好?
每个品牌都有不同档次的漆. 这个问题是很难说的.如果面积不是特别大的话,不同品牌同等质量的漆价格不是差很多的.

3,用途不同,有finish,semi-gross等,只是想在原来的基础上再刷一下,应该选哪种?
gloss是指最反光的, flat也就是哑光. 哑光的抗污能力最差. 所以看你刷哪里, 有没有小孩什么的,需要根据你的需要才知道你应该选什么finish.

4,有桶装的,有他们自己根据顾客的选择配...
油漆都是桶装的啊. 一般的都需要配色的.不用的一般是白色的.你去选个你喜欢的颜色,然后说你要一桶这个颜色的什么finish的漆就可以了.价格一般是一样的.也有特殊情况, 但少.

5.油漆桶上有说明.

6.可以用drywall compound.

7.有一点很重要的是你原来的是什么漆. latex or oil base. 什么颜色的. 需要搞清楚要不要用primer.

8. 不要买太差rollor.

9. 用masking tape贴好门窗边角.这样容易滚一些.

10. have fun.
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旧 Jul 10th, 2006, 23:10     #2
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俺觉着简单起见,有事没事都用primer错不了。

唯一不能错的是,不能把oil base 的油漆刷在latex 的油漆上。

如果本来是water base的,现在刷water base,没问题。
如果本来是oil base的,刷water base or oil base都没问题,只是现在diy基本都用water base,气味小,黏度好,易清洁。

如果分不清本来是哪种,用棉花沾点你老婆用的指甲油,墙上蹭蹭,如果蹭下来颜色,那么是water base,如果蹭不下来颜色,那就是oil base的。

如果根本就懒得分清是哪种颜色,或者需要覆盖以前的油漆颜色,那就刷primer。
应该是不能直接把LATEX刷在OIL上,如果要从OIL转到LATEX,要先用OIL BASED PRIMER,再刷LATEX,一般情况OIL可以直接刷在LATEX上
甲水的好象也反了吧
好的LATEX覆盖效果好,如果原来是浅色的漆,再刷浅色的,一般不用PRIMER就可以,但是最好把墙清洁一下,
如果是刷深色的漆,想得到CHIP上的颜色,最好用GREY的PRIMER准备一下,否则出来的颜色不一样
如果有霉有水印的话,要用PRIMER SEALER刷一下,来COVER住
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人头噢,就告诉你甲水里起作用的不是酒精,是THINNER,THINNER就是国内叫的天拿水,有刺鼻的味,干啥的你自己查吧
是不是HD的SALES告诉你的?也只有HD推荐BEHR,BEHR是OVER PRICE的漆,一般没人买,PRIMER SEALER用GLIDDEN的好,价格好质量高,PAINTER很多都用GLIDDEN的PRIMER
如果原来是OIL BASE,一定要上OIL BASED PRIMER,WATER BASE的PRIMER不能穿透OIL COAT,而且也没听说过PRIMER有上TWO COAT的...算了,要真说又要码字了,如果是HD的人告诉你的,俺就没必要说了

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指甲水的那个,木有反,用俺人头担保。因为酒精对oil base的油漆没有影响,所以能蹭下颜色的一定是water base的油漆。

补充:如果是以前刷过的墙面,弄干净平整以后,无论以前上的啥油漆,上两层behr的water base primer,然后再上啥都木问题了。

一点困惑,感谢包大虾指出,...
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有人给俺加豆吗?如果有人的哈,俺就单开个话题来将油漆的事,版竹呢?
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首先甲水里是啥,先不说是稀释剂还是酒精,这不是问题的关键,关键的是我说的那个方法没有反,你用了甲水去蹭油漆,能蹭下来的就是水基油漆,蹭不下的就是油基。

俺不光用behr,俺还用过别的牌子,说behr是over price,多少有点“骇人听闻或者卖弄经验”的意思了,俺认识两个专做painting的公...
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我上面说的不太清楚,直接是解释原因去了,这样说吧,指甲油是oil based还是water based?
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首先甲水里是啥,先不说是稀释剂还是酒精,这不是问题的关键,关键的是我说的那个方法没有反,你用了甲水去蹭油漆,能蹭下来的就是水基油漆,蹭不下的就是油基。

俺不光用behr,俺还用过别的牌子,说behr是over price,多少有点“骇人听闻或者卖弄经验”的意思了,俺认识两个专做painting的公...
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k, 1米粒啊!俺心脏都停了
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好说好说,你来单开个话题讲油漆的事吧。

现已给baozi,PRINTING每人转帐一百万,以资鼓励。
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behr,你自己查查,是不是在HD买的?
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it's "bher"

bher is the best as well as benjamin moore

就家里用的话,这点面积差不了几块钱,just choose the best
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因为新技术吧,现在新的LATEX在一些方面已经可以和OIL比了,有KITCHEN&BATH用的LATEX,至于用专门FOR KITCH&BATH还是普通的INDOOR,要看你卫生间的情况,KITCH&BATH的更偏重在控制MOLD,STAIN等上面,如果你的卫生间很敞亮干燥,就没问题
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可以. 除了flat的都可以。也有厨房卫生间专用漆。
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要OIL BASED PRIMER,直接不行
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water base 的可以刷在 oil base上么?
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如果是我的话,我会选FLOOD的,具体还要根据你的FENCE的新旧,如果旧了,可能需要先TREAT,其他的要求可以去到店里问
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请教包子和Printing,刷outdoor的fence用什么牌子的什么base的油漆比较好?还用刷 primer吗?

不想要颜色,只想保留原木板的本来颜色。

谢谢了!
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OIL PAINT :

Various petroleum distillates are available with names like "Odorless Turpentine" and ordinary solvents like acetone (fingernail polish remover) will work. These chemicals can be quite harsh and gentler chemicals may be tried first....

随便在GOOGLE里找了个,要知道,OIL BASE PAINT里的味道最呛的就是丙酮的味道,国内老说PAINT不达标污染空气,就是包括丙酮在内的几种溶济超出国标,指甲油就是OIL BASE PAINT啊
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包老大和楼主,首先纠正俺的一个错误,前面说water base可以刷在oil base上,是错误的,天地良心,不是俺要故意害人滴,实在是思维瞬间短路所至。

现在的oil base 油漆通常可以刷在both water base 或者 oil base上,如果以前刷的漆是oil base的,2,30...

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一般说会有ADHESIVE的问题,就是挂不住,或者你刷了最好的LATEX,但在SCRATCHABLE上降到了中等档次的漆的水平,不过有几种VERY SPECIAL的LATEX,因为里面的胶特殊,可以挂住,估计你的不是

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算了,看来网上的东西谁都能写,

Take a rag and soak it in methyl hydrate (gas line antifreeze) or non-acetone nail polish remover. Rub the paint vigorously with the moistened rag. If the paint starts to get sticky and break down, it's latex. If it doesn't do anything but look shiny and undisturbed, that's alkyd.

和你看的正好是反的,是NON-ACETONE的


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Take a cotton ball and wet it with acetone (found in most nail polish removers). On an inconspicuous part of the furniture (su...
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都说到这了,就再来说这句的问题
我个人人为啊,一分钱一分货,不是指BRAND,而是指PAINT的档次,每家PAINT都分GOOD BETTER BEST,我指的是BEST,在NA MARKET站前十的都会有很好的产品,但在HOME里做BRANDING做最好的就这2家,广告铺天盖地,至于真正的评测,没哪个权威机构去评,PAINT本身也看很多方面的PERFORMANCE,有的SCRATCHABLE好,有的在抗FADING好,有的遮盖好,有的CLEANABLE好,有的NO VOC,等等,看你注重哪方面了,但是基本的一个原则,其他BRAND的BEST LEVEL的漆肯定比这两家BETTER LEVEL的强,所以我不会买牌子,我会买BEST LEVEL里便宜的,如果去HD,我会买DULEX,NO VOC,如果你觉得价格高肯定好,那是RL的漆,对DIY的我们来说,还用着DOLLAR店买来的ROLLER和刷子,啥漆都没区别,因为都浪费了
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原来是晃点我啊,没啥说的了,
对了,问一下半主,俺是个懒人,一般是人家问我才知道该怎么写,俺在这也写了挺多了,要单写个的话就算了吧,但是无功不受禄啊,怎么把你转的钱还给你?那点数放我这也浪费了
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我只是问一下,我的是水基刷水基
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