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旧 Feb 27th, 2009, 21:56     #1
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默认 化妆品研究!!!!!

不看不知道,我简直是化妆品盲。

我是学化学的,前2天突发奇想要研究一下cosmetic chemistry,就去图书馆订了一本书, Don't go to the cosmetics counter without me. 出了好多本了,8 editions,我order了7th,排队的人少。 几乎每个品牌产品的价格品质都列了,chemistry的东西有一点,但是不多。 很多大牌的拳头产品是徒有虚名的,不少也是名至实归的。 好的产品笑脸,坏的哭脸,不好不坏的不哭不笑,推荐产品打勾。

眼霜问题最严重,跟大家818。

眼霜很多都cheating,典型的是Lancome - Absolute eye premium, EL 的Future Perfect anti-wrinkle radiance eye cream, 为了达到好的防黑眼圈,细纹的效果,里面添加了 inorganic pigment, mica, TiO2 and Iron oxide. 这些添加剂就是CLINIQUE的CITY BLOCK里的添加剂,试想你会戴着city block睡觉吗? 这也是有个帖子MM说的烧出来黑色的缘故。 我现在就在用EL的眼霜,哎,朋友推荐的。 她还像我推荐Lancome的,说是用了好,因为我一向讨厌Lancome, 没有买。相反,她说 Shisedo的bio-performance的不好,用Lancome没有黑眼圈,shisedo就有。 事实正好相反。
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还有就是各大品牌及其拳头产品的问题。
作者评价最低的就是Shiseido (我正在yong)和 clarins了。

Shiseido 几乎没有好的评价,太贵,没放什么值钱的,号称rich, 什么也不rich。 我现在用的white lucent brightening refining softener 评价极低,只能晚上用,白天摸上晒太阳的话就是灾难,另外一个White lucent SPF 16 的moisturizer 还行,马马虎虎,一句话,不该这么贵。

Shiseido的拳头产品, bio-performance 也不好,没有什么state-of-the-art的技术,要是卖20刀就打勾了,那么贵就平平了。

Shiseido 好的产品就是防晒系列,放长波 UV-UVA特别好,而且rich,UVA比较难防,ZnO 和 Avobenzone是UVA的吸收剂,avobenzone不稳定,ZnO 的相容性差,所以防UVA难点,shiseido做的不错。

Clarins 没有Shiseido那么多哭脸,但是平平的较多,就是不值那么贵,她的body shaping的系列就平平,也是Clarins的拳头。

以前MOCCA推荐的 LIP GLOSS,就是作者打勾推荐的,我买了,现在还在用,我也推荐过,很不错,滋润,,lightweigh,涂了没有感觉。 相比较shiseido的就差,很thick,滋润也很好,用的比clarins 快多了。

EA 的拳头 胶囊名至实归,作者推荐,小枫也推荐,8小时还是24小时霜就平平了。
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旧 Feb 27th, 2009, 22:27   只看该作者   #4
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谢谢哦. 能不能大致说说作者推崇的是那些, 就是笑脸多的.

那本书有空我也借来看看.
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Benefit 和 Bobi Brown, 以前茉莉妹妹推荐过,名至实归,其拳头产品也值得推荐。

打比方, benefit 的 blush,concealer,茉莉和以前的 nice MM 推荐的就是好产品,bobi brown的foundation 也好,nice MM 推荐的gel 眼线也好。
Benefit的猪油膏,以前也是拳头,作者平平,我在用,也平平,没推荐过。


我的一向青睐有加的Clinique得到了最多的笑脸, 但是著名的3部曲除外。 黄油就是效果还行,没什么特别的技术,gel 推荐了。 我曾推荐的 mild clarifying Lotion (其实是化妆水)就得到了笑脸,才16.5,真的滋润效果好。 City block 好,turnaround 好,彩妆好。 但是zero gravity等贵的平平,我用过,觉得好。 作者的意思就是太贵了,不值那个钱。

Lancome 的除了洗脸的,就没什么笑脸,提一句,shiseido洗脸的全是哭脸。
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Lip balm , 我用的 Kiehl's, 应该是拳头了吧,作者给了平平,A Standard lip balm;

MAC的lip conditioner 就是推荐。

Origin - 我对Origin有特殊的感情,以前在国内别人从英国给我带回来一瓶mask,我用着好,就觉得是好东西,这里不好买,上次去美国看到了还特意带回来。 事实是评价很不好,苦脸很多,我再不用了。


Bodyshop,我刚买了, bodyshop的东西不贵吧,得到的是平平的评价,说明不咋地。
Honey oat mask 我买了,这个没评价,但是我是首肯的,也会推荐。 VE 晚霜,作者说包装不好,VE 很快失效,而且bodyshop里的VE含量少的可怜。 小枫千万别买。 BODYSHOP的ALoe 系列是推荐的, VC系列特别是防晒的千万别用。就和shiseido的softener同理。
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how about EL? ANR?
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EL ANR 眼霜平平,clinique的 all-in-one 眼霜推荐。

JMS 有眼霜把牌子报给我,我帮你们查,眼霜里添加pigment的不少,但是还是有些没有添加的,我一个个列太烦了,但是会有求必应。
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再8一句,shiseido里很多LOTION 和Emulsion都有酒精,这根本就想不到呀。!!!!
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I am using EA's 24 hr eye cream, and ceramid (?) eye cream for day (with spf). Also I bought a ROC eye cream.

Can you recommend an eye serum?

What about olay? Saw some flyers about the new Olay Pro-x... and I'm kind of interested.
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ANR concentrate recovery boosting treatment笑脸+推荐,眼霜平平不过没pigment,评价是包装设计不好,有效成分很快失效。

ANR protective recovery complex 平平。
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CITY BLOCK ,是不是也是有LIGHT 和 DARK 之分的?
我第一次买,不知道.人家给了我一支,结果抹在脸上比皮肤色要深一些.
一点儿也没变白.都好久了,也没办法拿去换一支.
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EL ANR 眼霜平平,clinique的 all-in-one 眼霜推荐。

JMS 有眼霜把牌子报给我,我帮你们查,眼霜里添加pigment的不少,但是还是有些没有添加的,我一个个列太烦了,但是会有求必应。
这个是不是 all about eyes rich 呀?

能帮忙查StriVectin吗?谢谢!
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I am using EA's 24 hr eye cream, and ceramid (?) eye cream for day (with spf). Also I bought a ROC eye cream.

Can you recommend an eye serum?

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CERAMIDE eyes wish eye cream spf10, 哭脸。SPF 太少,不防UVA,但是眼胶就推荐。
我这里没查到24小时眼霜。
ROC retin-OL multi-crrexion multi-corrective eye cream, 笑脸加打勾,而且不贵吗?缺点就是含香料了。
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我发现 spa 里卖的品牌比柜台上卖的那种广告做足的东西好多了。所以,再不去柜台上买了

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CITY BLOCK ,是不是也是有LIGHT 和 DARK 之分的?
我第一次买,不知道.人家给了我一支,结果抹在脸上比皮肤色要深一些.
一点儿也没变白.都好久了,也没办法拿去换一支.
不对,分 spf, SPF 25最推荐。
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这个是不是 all about eyes rich 呀?

能帮忙查StriVectin吗?谢谢!
1 是的,我打烦了就不check了
2 我查到后让我转 bremenn research lab,这个牌子眼霜还行,笑脸,其他serum等都是苦脸,好像很贵。
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CERAMIDE eyes wish eye cream spf10, 哭脸。SPF 太少,不防UVA,但是眼胶就推荐。
我这里没查到24小时眼霜。
ROC retin-OL multi-crrexion multi-corrective eye cream, 笑脸加打勾,而且不贵吗?缺点就是含...
I got a $10 ROC coupon last month. So it's $24 (reg price 34), with 20X points from SDM.
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还有几乎所有的 mask 作者都推荐去药店买,虽然大牌的质量好,但是药店1/3的价格弥补了这些缺点。

大牌的彩妆都不错,可圈可点。
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