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默认 美加生活之异同(1)居住篇 写在迁居美国80天之际(ZT from rolia.net)

在多伦多,房价真是高得离谱,像我等一般的打工一族,如果移民前没有大笔积蓄,要想贷款买房,供起来会相当的吃力。而据我了解,在美国这边,除了纽约、新泽西房价跟多伦多有的一比外,其他主要城市房价都不算很高。像我在的这个小城市,房价就更低了,基本上25万左右就可以买到三居的独立HOUSE,我一个鬼佬同事在附近的一个小镇买了一套新房(三居、独立)才15万。
至于我,因考虑到这里华人少,印巴人更少,买中国菜不方便,还不打算买房子,目前租住在一二年新的豪华APARTMENT里,1000平方英尺,中央空调,洗碗机等,室外小区游泳池,月租比周围贵400刀,但考虑到附近的小学是TOP SCHOOL IN THE CITY, 所以决定租住于此。我家的两个小孩都很喜欢这里的环境。而且最重要的是小区封闭管理,治安还不错。居民都很好,无论认识不认识,见面都答招呼,这点我觉得很NICE.
大小孩在附近的小学上学,有免费的SCHOOL BUS接送,中午化1.1元就可以任选午餐,再也不用像在多伦多时要自己带LUNCH了, 小孩很喜欢。

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默认 美加生活之异同(2)买车篇 ---------------------------写在迁居美国80天之际(ZT)

在加拿大时,一直不舍得换车,一直在开一辆十几年车龄的ACCORD,直到这次公司调我到美国分公司工作,我老婆还想把我们家的旧车带到美国来,但我还是下决心把他卖了,虽然有点舍不得,毕竟朝夕相处了四年,它见证了我这四年的奋斗里程呢,从开头打LABOUR,送餐,到上学当TUTOR,再到重返专业。一是我要去的地方华人少,修车不方便且贵,而且美国新车也便宜。

因为要有SECURITY NO. 才能考本地驾照,因此等到来这里的第29天,一次过考下了笔试和路试,花了21.50到,用四年。 我在的州不认我的安省驾照,但好想认可德国的驾照(奇怪?)。我算LUCKY,我人没到,公司已经给我预备的一辆一年新的JEEP LIBERTY 给我用, 所以没体会到没车之苦,但我老婆就不同了,没有车,她只能天天待在家里。本着把她解救出来的想法和感谢她这N年来的家务操持和养儿育女,我决定送(想不出用什么词好,因为我赚的钱她也有分啊?)她一辆新车。但买什么车好呢?我上网做了足够的RESEARCH,最后决定买本田的FIT 或者CIVIC,因为这两者性价比高,安全性能评价高,通过试驾,觉得FIT的减震太硬,还是CIVIC好,行驶安静平稳虽然贵2000.决定就是它了,而且调中了一部米黄色的车,DELEARER要我先付定金,但我坚持得到保险的报价后,才能交订金买车。事实证明我是英明的,这一等又省了我六百多美金。这是后话。
保险报价的结果,吓我一跳,从半年1500到3300刀(全保)独有,而且第三者保额才1万/2万,IT REALLY SUPRISED ME.不是说美国保险便宜吗?WHY???理由是我没有美国的保险历史。后来找到STATE FARM,他们的代理告诉我只要我以前的保险公司出具证明,他们可以认可我的加拿大保险记录,这才那到151/月。
保险出来了,干紧又去见DELEARER,这次他们的经理出来了,我吓唬他说你要不给我优惠,我们就去买TOYOYA了,我还说我知道你们的INVOICE PRICE,这黑人经理还真NICE, 赶紧拿出她的INVOICE COPY(估计也是对付顾客用的,不是TRUE COPY), 说你总不能不让我赚钱吧,告诉我在这个价的基础上,加多少,我又不得不加,总不能不让人赚吧? 咬咬牙加了200. 看来我真不是做生意的料,心不够毒辣。这样下来税后总价只比MSRP多300刀。2007 HONDA CIVI LX 4DR. $18876.够便宜了吧?比加拿大便宜4000-5000呢。
于是,赶紧叫来老婆试车,没想到她也一试就喜欢上了这车。从此开始了她的全职太太的工作!
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默认 美加生活之异同(3)工作篇 ---------------------------写在迁居美国80天之际(ZT)

我原来在加拿大BURLINGTON工作,住在SCARBOROUGH(老婆在那上学,不可能搬家), 每天开车至少150公里,这还不包括工作的TRAVEL。有时候一天得开车来回600公里去到SARNIA (与DETROIT 接壤) 干活,在夏天还好,冬天可就惨了,记得今年初的GTA的第一场大雪,75公里的路我用了3个半小时才到办公室。一路上看到很多交通事故,有撞车的,有大货柜车车头横跨在中间分界的混泥土墙上的,更多的是冲向路边的沟壑里,情况令人胆颤心惊。但工作是比较轻松的,有时候一个星期也就两三天时间去现场工作,其余时间也就做做PAPERWORK, 清闲的要命,这也是我为什么要来美国的原因。
自从来到南方的这个小城市后,上班最远的也不过80迈单程,但路况很好,车不算多。大多数也就十几迈,20分钟车程, 真有天壤之别。我是做第三方检验工作的,在办公室的时间很少,几乎天天去现场,而且一个厂接一个厂的。我在的城市是墨西哥湾一个新兴的制造业基地,有很多造船厂,和采油设施有关的制造业,技术劳动力非常短缺,特别是电工,焊工,钳工和装配工,很容易找到工作,目前这些工作主要是罗马尼亚人和墨西哥人在干,本地人都在干着比较清闲的工作,比如现场管理,试验等等。最明显的就是到处都可以看到“NOW HIRING”的招牌,包括快餐、零售、工厂、发电厂,几乎各行各业。
2005年KATRINA袭击墨西哥湾以后,这里才开始兴旺起来,原因是很多制造业从NEW ORLEANS搬过来了,连带着房价也上涨了10万左右。但是失业率还是有7%左右,原因是有些人太懒了,不愿意出去工作,宁可吃政府福利,特别是有些有色人种。这是工作中认识的白人告诉我的。这里的工厂很奇怪,他们早上开工6点,到下午五点收工,大多数还开两班,星期六也一样,超过40小时算加班,有一倍半工资。但工人和管理层好像也习惯了,没有怨言,至少我碰到的是这样。我跟他们开玩笑,说他们是MONEY-MAKNG MACHINE,没时间花钱和享受生活,他们说他们赚的钱都让女人给花了,部分是事实,这里很多女人生小孩后,留在家里相夫教子。
工友们和工作中接触到的人都很好,没感觉到有歧视,至少对我如此。但很多白人对黑人还是有歧视的,说他们懒,而且善意的提醒我别在黑人聚居的地方买房子,原因是打架斗殴多。看来确实如此,在工作场所看到的白人和黑人的比例跟这个城市的白人和黑人的比例不相称。
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默认 美加生活之异同(4)饮食篇 ---------------------------写在迁居美国80天之际(ZT)

来到这里后,最大的不习惯在于买中国菜及其它食品的困难。刚来时候,只能在当地的WALMART买菜,但很难买到中国人喜欢的蔬菜及新鲜鱼。通过GOOGLE发现在70多迈以外的NEW ORLEANS有华人超市,实际上就是越南华人开的超市,品种少且贵,主要是面向越南人,而且所有食品都得打上联邦和州税。你还别说,这里越南人就是多过华人,搞得越南人也误以为我是越南人。最奇怪的就是这里是海港城市,超市里卖的都是冰鲜鱼,极少鲜鱼卖,搞得我要自己去弄些鲜鱼回来解馋,这是后话,后面有专门的章节叙述。再后来,待熟悉一点后,发现本市也有越南人开的一间小超市,里面也有一些中国人喜欢的菜:通菜,韭菜,菜心,白菜,豆角,豆腐等,还有米面制品等。于是老婆改为在WALMART买肉、牛奶及鸡蛋,原因是新鲜及便宜,去越南人开的小超市卖蔬菜及副食品。这样总算解决了我们的中国胃的问题。这就是小城市的不便之处。总的来说,这里买菜比多伦多每个月多上100多美元。
餐馆:这里的餐馆大部分也是越南华人开的,我们这个城市有7、8家中餐馆,只有一家是广州人开的,味道比多伦多的差远了,更别说根国内比了。但是比多伦多便宜,BUFFET平时6.99,晚上和周末9.99,我记得在多伦多常去的CHINA BUFFET KING平时中午8.99,平时晚上13.99,周末晚上15.99。至于休斯顿就更便宜了,周末晚上才8.99。其他菜馆就更差了,纯粹是骗鬼佬的,就是国内的快餐,每个菜都包括炒饭,难吃死了,所以我们都不爱去。还是怀念多伦多的日子,朋友多,吃得便宜又方便,还到处有中餐吃。这不,为了过中秋,上个星期还专门开车330迈去到休斯顿唐人街采购月饼及其它食物。说到海鲜,这里开车一小时到海边的渔民那里买虾和螃蟹还是很便宜的,我上次去买了五磅才连税不到11元,挺大的虾,吃了两次,小孩都不要了。于是我用来作为鱼饵,钓了好几次鱼。这里的鱼和螃蟹真是好钓,就此打住,要陪小孩出去玩了。欲知详情,请看下回分解。
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默认 美加生活之异同(5)休闲篇 ---------------------------写在迁居美国80天之际(ZT)

由于初来乍到,没有什么朋友,加上华人少,因此最好的休闲就是钓鱼了。这里的FISHING LISENCE才十五块一年,可以在内河和海上钓。多数鬼佬都有小艇,所以他们大部分都去海上离岸钓,当然收获就丰。象我们这些没有艇的人就只能岸钓了。在多伦多时也钓个两个夏天,有时候还得去到很远的PETERBOUGH水坝夜钓,耗费汽油还不说,收获不一定。有时候一两条,有时候几磅鱼,而且不算大。不像在这儿,象我这样的菜鸟,每次还能钓上不少。第一次很失败,钓了几条小鱼,有放回去了,只钓回来3、4磅螃蟹。最多是来此之后的第二次钓鱼,只两个小时不到,钓上来十几、二十磅的钳鱼(类似鲶鱼,但尾巴象草鱼),搞得我都没空喝水,一下去一条,一下去又一条,还都不小两磅左右,大的有三四磅。吃了一个星期都没吃完,还送了四条大的给邻居。后来就不想钓这种鱼了。
最奇怪的是,第三次钓上来一种鳄鱼的近亲,大概有5、6磅,那嘴特像北美产的窄嘴鳄鱼,但身子和尾巴却像草鱼。原以为会有一顿美餐,慎重起见,上网去一查,原来是鱼卵有剧毒的一种鱼,据说,年代和恐龙相若。象国内的河豚鱼,鱼内脏和鱼卵有毒,但鱼肉无毒。为了安全,只好恋恋不舍的扔掉了。昨天还钓上来3条这种鱼,我连鱼钩都没敢拔掉,剪掉线就放回去了。昨天收获还可以,就在附近的河里钓上来6条大鱼(约两磅一条),十一只螃蟹,美美地可以吃五六顿了。
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TX,LA州的房子当然便宜。因为气候不好,夏天闷热,还有飓风。加上这里土地敞开供应,所以地价极低,房子价格自然上不去了。

你到加州去看看,就不会说美国的房子便宜了,再去看看Illinois州,看看Washington州,你就会说多伦多的房子便宜了。
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美国车是便宜

房子不好说,要看地方,不过便宜的地方一般问题在于不不好买中国菜,都是小地
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This is my article actually. Please give some comments. Especially for those who want to come join us in the USA!
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There are many plantations and swamps here. On swamps, you can take a tour with the boat in which you need to rent or buy a ticket. You can see some American alligators and fish jump. The residents here would like to boat on weekends and camp in the local state park-Grand Isle Park, on the seashore of Gulf of Mexico. They can do fishing and boating overthere. But the water and beaches are much worse than the ones in Ontario. The nearby New Orleans is a famous tourist desitination for its French features and attracts few million people from all over the world. Do you know about Louisiana Purchase? The Louisiana Purchase was the acquisition by the United States of approximately 530 million acres (820,000 sq mi or 2,100,000 km²) of French territory in 1803, at the cost of about 4¢ per acre (7¢ per ha); totaling $15 million or 80 million French francs. Including interest, America finally paid $23,213,568 for the Louisiana territory.[1] The land purchased contained all of present-day Arkansas, Missouri, Iowa, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Minnesota south of Mississippi River, much of North Dakota, nearly all of South Dakota, northeastern New Mexico, northern Texas, the portions of Montana, Wyoming, and Colorado east of the Continental Divide, and Louisiana on both sides of the Mississippi River, including the city of New Orleans. (The Oklahoma Panhandle, and southwestern portions of Kansas and Louisiana were still claimed by Spain at the time of the Purchase.) In addition, the Purchase contained small portions of land that would eventually become part of the Canadian provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan. The land included in the purchase comprises around 23% of the territory of the modern United States.[1] The purchase was an important moment in the presidency of Thomas Jefferson. At the time, it faced domestic opposition as being possibly unconstitutional. Although he felt that the Constitution did not contain any provisions for acquiring territory, Jefferson decided to purchase Louisiana because he felt uneasy about France and Spain having the power to block American traders' access to the port of New Orleans.
How smart American politicians! They got New Mexico, Florida, Albama, Mississipi, Louisiana, Alaska without a war!
For shopping, almost everything here is cheaper than Canada! Especially electronics products, auto and clothes and so on!

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在多伦多,房价真是高得离谱,像我等一般的打工一族,如果移民前没有大笔积蓄,要想贷款买房,供起来会相当的吃力。而据我了解,在美国这边,除了纽约、新泽西房价跟多伦多有的一比外,其他主要城市房价都不算很高。像我在的这个小城市,房价就更低了,基本上25万左右就可以买到三居的独立HOUSE,我一个鬼佬同事在附近的一个小镇买了一套新房(三居、独立)才15万。
至于我,因考虑到这里华人少,印巴人更少,买中国菜不方便,还不打算买房子,目前租住在一二年新的豪华APARTMENT里,1000平方英尺,中央空调,洗碗机等,室外小区游泳池,月租比周围贵400刀,但考虑到附近的小学是TOP SCHOOL IN THE CITY, 所以决定租住于此。我家的两个小孩都很喜欢这里的环境。而且最重要的是小区封闭管理,治安还不错。居民都很好,无论认识不认识,见面都答招呼,这点我觉得很NICE.
大小孩在附近的小学上学,有免费的SCHOOL BUS接送,中午化1.1元就可以任选午餐,再也不用像在多伦多时要自己带LUNCH了, 小孩很喜欢。
对不起,来挑点刺~~~

多伦多房子算贵吗?在加拿大都不一定排的上前三名八?纽约的房子就不要用来根多伦多比了,那是天价,其他大城市房价比多伦多贵的多了去啦,楼主完全没有把西部放在眼里阿~~~

1000平方英尺的公寓,也就是2个bedroom+den,中央空调,洗碗机,这些不都是多伦多公寓的标准设施麻?

便宜是便宜,家长也省心了,不过你问过你家孩子午餐都吃的什么吗?都是快餐垃圾。

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2007 HONDA CIVI LX 4DR. $18876.够便宜了吧?比加拿大便宜4000-5000呢...
这款车在BC保险都没那么贵,老大~~~

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我原来在加拿大BURLINGTON工作,住在SCARBOROUGH(老婆在那上学,不可能搬家), 每天开车至少150公里,这还不包括工作的TRAVEL。有时候一天得开车来回600公里去到SARNIA (与DETROIT 接壤) 干活,在夏天还好,冬天可就惨了,记得今年初的GTA的第一场大雪,75公里...
这个基本算不上两国差异,只是在米国你住的地方接近你工作的地方,大大缩短了commute的时间。一定要说有区别,奏是你不用再积雪的highway上疲于奔命了。
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来到这里后,最大的不习惯在于买中国菜及其它食品的困难。刚来时候,只能在当地的WALMART买菜,但很难买到中国人喜欢的蔬菜及新鲜鱼。通过GOOGLE发现在70多迈以外的NEW ORLEANS有华人超市,实际上就是越南华人开的超市,品种少且贵,主要是面向越南人,而且所有食品都得打上联邦和州税。你还别说...
以前加元跟美元汇率稳定在1。5比1的时候,其实价格是差不太多的。现在加元贵过美元,觉得什么都比米国贵啦。
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由于初来乍到,没有什么朋友,加上华人少,因此最好的休闲就是钓鱼了。这里的FISHING LISENCE才十五块一年,可以在内河和海上钓。多数鬼佬都有小艇,所以他们大部分都去海上离岸钓,当然收获就丰。象我们这些没有艇的人就只能岸钓了。在多伦多时也钓个两个夏天,有时候还得去到很远的PETERBOUGH水...
估计你在多伦多没找对地儿~~~
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There are many plantations and swamps here. On swamps, you can take a tour with the boat in which yo...
excuse me? does that freaking Louisiana Purchase have something to do with 旅游消费篇?

the only thing you are right about it is that 'almost everything here is cheaper than Canada', that's true, one important reason is that because US is a bigger consumer markets than Canada, a whole lot bigger, the retailers get much better deal from the manufactures!
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如果只是夫妻两人,去美国干好
如果你家有老有小,一家六口(两小孩,两老人),那你哪里都去不了,还是乖乖呆在加拿大吧!

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比如房屋价格,你那小镇什么人口比例,跟多伦多比?怎么不跟west point比?
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在多伦多,房价真是高得离谱,像我等一般的打工一族,如果移民前没有大笔积蓄,要想贷款买房,供起来会相当的吃力。而据我了解,在美国这边,除了纽约、新泽西房价跟多伦多有的一比外,其他主要城市房价都不算很高。像我在的这个小城市,房价就更低了,基本上25万左右就可以买到三居的独立HOUSE,我一个鬼佬同事在附...
多伦多是北美第四大城市。 所以不能跟美国的小镇比。 比较东西应该苹果对苹果,橘子对橘子。
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