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旧 Nov 27th, 2004, 22:57   只看该作者   #41
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/还有就是这个专业很少给转学分,即使你以前是学医的现在一样也要读4年来或者本科degree。/
因为这里的定义是:学医的和护士是完全不同的两个领域。
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旧 Nov 28th, 2004, 00:49   只看该作者   #42
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但是很多基本的课程如解剖,营养课程都是一样要学的。
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I agree with some postings above exactly in the same way!

Compared with other programs in my college, Practical nursing is one of the most stressful ones. However, the 4-year degree RN is much more intensive! Some friends in RN always tell me they are in a kind of nightmare, even English is their first language. And one of them has already decided to transfer to 2-year RPN next year.

Salary: one newly graduate RPN once told me she gets $18.50/hr in the nursing home where i'm practicing. not bad a?

Language: whatever you take language is always the key, not just for nursing. But which can be improved through your study and daily life. I know a lady started from PSW, then RPN, and now she's in RN. I'd like to encourage outsiders who are not very confident with their communication to try PSW first, which needs only a couple of months and gets effect instantly! When ready, go back to school and pick up RPN; want to move on, then RN!

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旧 Nov 28th, 2004, 13:51   只看该作者   #44
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I agree with some postings above exactly in the same way!

Compared with other programs in my college, Practical nursing is one of the most stressful ones. However, the 4-year degree RN is much more intensive! Some friends in RN always tell me they are in a kind of nightmare, even English is their first language. And one of them has already decided to transfer to 2-year RPN next year.

Salary: one newly graduate RPN once told me she gets $18.50/hr in the nursing home where i'm practicing. not bad a?

Language: whatever you take language is always the key, not just for nursing. But which can be improved through your study and daily life. I know a lady started from PSW, then RPN, and now she's in RN. I'd like to encourage outsiders who are not very confident with their communication to try PSW first, which needs only a couple of months and gets effect instantly! When ready, go back to school and pick up RPN; want to move on, then RN!

Don't be scared!
PSW很容易可能需要不到1年(8个月)
RPN两年
RN4年(即使你是RPN也要读4年,可能有的学分能转但是实际还是要读4年)
PSW->RPN->RN= total is 7 years
成本太高了!还不如直接读RN! 加拿大以后的趋势是RN都要学位的,所以大家想读护士还是考虑读个DEGREE吧。试想如果一旦护士饱和,首先可能LAYOFF的是PSW然后是RPN然后是RN,因为RN具有RPN和PSW以及两者都不具有的知识!
个人观点
据说RN起薪是21$,不过好像有RN licences的是26!听说而已!不过比加拿大的空姐可差多了,加拿大空姐月薪1万加元。
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旧 Nov 28th, 2004, 14:41   只看该作者   #45
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PSW很容易可能需要不到1年(8个月)
RPN两年
RN4年(即使你是RPN也要读4年,可能有的学分能转但是实际还是要读4年)
PSW->RPN->RN= total is 7 years
成本太高了!还不如直接读RN! 加拿大以后的趋势是RN都要学位的,所以大家想读护士还是考虑读个DEGREE吧。试想如果一旦护士饱和,首先可能LAYOFF的是PSW然后是RPN然后是RN,因为RN具有RPN和PSW以及两者都不具有的知识!
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据说RN起薪是21$,不过好像有RN licences的是26!听说而已!不过比加拿大的空姐可差多了,加拿大空姐月薪1万加元。
不是的,现在很多学校RPN毕业后可以直接转RN再上2年,才改的,我打电话去centennial问过
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旧 Nov 28th, 2004, 14:51   只看该作者   #46
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$21/hr是graduate nurse的工资, 是4年毕业拿到学位后(还不能称为RN)的工资, $26/hr是再通过注册考试后的工资.

俺正在读RN, 现在课程最困难的阶段应该已经过去了. 看了这么多讨论护士的贴子, 俺倒是一直在想: 这两年所有的学校都大力扩招护士, 几年后会不会出现求职高峰, 如果几年内老护士的退休数目<求职高峰数, 到时会不会重现国内前几年财会专业的情况? 俺只知道全加在未来10年内老护士的退休数目,但俺没有查到估计的未来新护士的数目. 由于有工会的保护, 不论在任何单位, 老护士相对于新护士而言,永远享有priority, (尤其是part-time的工作小时,lay-off 的人选等) 新护士得排队等全职老护士退休后才能有全职职位.

随着课程的渐渐适应和对这个行业的一些了解, 这个问题也慢慢地成为俺的一大concern. 如果哪位能查到未来新护士的数目, 请给个link, 多谢
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旧 Nov 28th, 2004, 15:02   只看该作者   #47
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$21/hr是graduate nurse的工资, 是4年毕业拿到学位后(还不能称为RN)的工资, $26/hr是再通过注册考试后的工资.

俺正在读RN, 现在课程最困难的阶段应该已经过去了. 看了这么多讨论护士的贴子, 俺倒是一直在想: 这两年所有的学校都大力扩招护士, 几年后会不会出现求职高峰, 如果几年内老护士的退休数目<求职高峰数, 到时会不会重现国内前几年财会专业的情况? 俺只知道全加在未来10年内老护士的退休数目,但俺没有查到估计的未来新护士的数目. 由于有工会的保护, 不论在任何单位, 老护士相对于新护士而言,永远享有priority, (尤其是part-time的工作小时,lay-off 的人选等) 新护士得排队等全职老护士退休后才能有全职职位.

随着课程的渐渐适应和对这个行业的一些了解, 这个问题也慢慢地成为俺的一大concern. 如果哪位能查到未来新护士的数目, 请给个link, 多谢
我倒是觉得不必担心这个问题.因为
1.学护士的人总是少的,很多老外并不愿意学.
2.会计确实比较简单,护士总是要难一些的
3.护士护理可以全球发展,美国人简直是在全世界抢护士
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旧 Nov 28th, 2004, 15:13   只看该作者   #48
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虽然是"很多老外并不愿意学", 但是有很多老外仍然在学, 而且很多老外卖命程度都比中国人厉害. 现在看来U.S.也许真是护士们未来唯一的Zion. 但是没有确切可靠的统计数据支持, 情况仍然很难预计.
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我知道的是$19-$21/hr是2学年的RPN的起步价,因为assume你4年毕业的时候就能通过RN的register。
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是迪~~多数学生毕业就能通过注册, 我现在的学校这几届的第一次通过率都是80%-85%. 通不过的人, 拿的就是这个数, 直到哪次通过了才涨, 不过一年有好几次机会的说.
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旧 Nov 28th, 2004, 19:20   只看该作者   #51
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是迪~~多数学生毕业就能通过注册, 我现在的学校这几届的第一次通过率都是80%-85%. 通不过的人, 拿的就是这个数, 直到哪次通过了才涨, 不过一年有好几次机会的说.
哪所学校啊,通过率那么高? 另外好奇的问你读第几年了?
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不会是CENTENNIAL的吧?呵呵
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不是CENTENNIAL,俺是Alberta的, 只是进来凑凑热闹的.
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默认 我家LD就是rpn毕业的

在医院工作觉得实际情况和传说的有一些差别。
1。没有layoff。----- 实际情况是现在某些医院就有,只是比较少而且手法比较巧妙。如:先关一两个unit一或两个月,然后再开,并换名字,其中就会有人被layoff。而且是rn先行(工资原因)医院没有psw.rpn实际是相对实惠。
2。英语要好-----这主要看怎么定义“好”我家LD托福也就610的水平,在同期的十几个中国人中在中游水平,但她的听力部分是替她背分,语法拉分。且得益于她的老师经验。在表达时可能会好一些,当时她学校加一门英语课为ESL的学生,她是唯一被免修的中国人。communication skill 好对今后的工作也有很大帮助。
3。工资水平------ 医院基本都比nursing home 高。远一些的地方比大多里工资高。医院里工作比nursing home 活累,但相对责任小(负责自己的病人,有问题有其他rpn/rn/doctor帮助解决) 在nursing home里体力活相对少,但责任大(负责psw的工作,有问题时rn要负责全部,若经验不足有时会比较麻烦)在医院基本是一天$200,在nursing home基本是一天$130--160。
希望这个行业不是下一个计算机。现在是有需求,但没有足够的钱。
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PSW很容易可能需要不到1年(8个月)
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RN4年(即使你是RPN也要读4年,可能有的学分能转但是实际还是要读4年)
PSW->RPN->RN= total is 7 years
成本太高了!还不如直接读RN! 加拿大以后的趋势是RN都要学位的,所以大家想读护士还是考虑读个DEGREE吧。试想如果一旦护士饱和,首先可能LAYOFF的是PSW然后是RPN然后是RN,因为RN具有RPN和PSW以及两者都不具有的知识!
个人观点
据说RN起薪是21$,不过好像有RN licences的是26!听说而已!不过比加拿大的空姐可差多了,加拿大空姐月薪1万加元。
For upgrading from RPN to RN, only 2 more years for sure!! But should be full-time.
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旧 Nov 29th, 2004, 18:06   只看该作者   #57
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默认 seegerz, your English is pretty good!

Smooth writing with native tones! I thought you were in English (major) or international trade something. Good for ya!

While, how long you've been here?

Anyway I need to work harder, absolutely!
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旧 Jan 22nd, 2005, 02:08   只看该作者   #58
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默认 nursing student be careful

this year 757 full time nurse lay off, from 2000, next yr total is 8600, be careful if u want to study it, if u done i say good luck
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旧 Jan 22nd, 2005, 23:34   只看该作者   #59
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Wink it is kind of confusing now...

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this year 757 full time nurse lay off, from 2000, next yr total is 8600, be careful if u want to study it, if u done i say good luck
yes, it is true. On the other hand, the baby bomers almost are around their 50th. Therefore, that will be a great demand for nurses... while, when the goverment needs more money in health care field, they fire nurses. It seems not a good decision from my opinion anyway. There is a guest editorial talkiing about this fire in Toronto Star of last Fri. It used an ironical way in arguing this issue. if anyone is interesed in it, have a look please. ))
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旧 Jan 29th, 2005, 10:38   只看该作者   #60
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默认 困惑啊~!

现在实习的时候,每天都感到nurse的人手很不够,一边看到的是有人说nursing的工作前景令人担忧,但事实上好像又不是这样――只要语言没问题,工作就没问题,尤其是能流利说两种或两种以上的语言的nurse。

要想学nursing的朋友,最好自己亲自去问问那些正在工作中的nurse,也有一些找不到工作,去近距离看看吧,眼见为实!如果决定要学,一定要想好是读2 year RPN or 4 year degree。
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