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旧 Jan 29th, 2011, 21:02     #1
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默认 【讨论】加油站生意

关于开个加油站的问题,困扰了我很久,现在在大多开个加油站(不带咖啡店),大概要投入多少呢?有人说路口像样一些的,基本上没有200万刀拿不下来了,真的是这么残酷吗?那么,如果我去北面(Markham或者再往北,到Stouville,或者往东面Whitby、Oshawa的小镇上呢?)除了资金,还需要什么才能入行呢?需不需要相关的从业背景呢?郁闷的是为什么加油站的生意被死阿差垄断了很多呢?欢迎指教,谢谢!

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旧 Jan 30th, 2011, 00:46   只看该作者   #2
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关于开个加油站的问题,困扰了我很久,现在在大多开个加油站(不带咖啡店),大概要投入多少呢?有人说路口像样一些的,基本上没有200万刀拿不下来了,真的是这么残酷吗?那么,如果我去北面(Markham或者再往北,到Stouville,或者往东面Whitby、Oshawa的小镇上呢?)除了资金,还需要什么...
兄弟你太乐观了,GTA地区稍微象点样的,至少要4M以上,即便是周围小镇上稍微好点的地段,没有2M也下不来.
很多业主自己并不经营,而是租出去,但是资本回报率不高,操心不少,转手也不是很容易,对很多有钱人是个鸡肋。
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旧 Jan 30th, 2011, 08:31   只看该作者   #3
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兄弟你太乐观了,GTA地区稍微象点样的,至少要4M以上,即便是周围小镇上稍微好点的地段,没有2M也下不来.
很多业主自己并不经营,而是租出去,但是资本回报率不高,操心不少,转手也不是很容易,对很多有钱人是个鸡肋。
兄弟,你太乐观了

基本多伦多市内好一点的要8M-10M
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旧 Jan 30th, 2011, 09:52   只看该作者   #4
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如果只是买生意不带物业的话,要便宜的多。
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旧 Jan 30th, 2011, 10:35   只看该作者   #5
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看来绑票比开油站容易多了
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旧 Jan 30th, 2011, 10:38   只看该作者   #6
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如果只是买生意不带物业的话,要便宜的多。
请教只买生意不带物业是指什么操作?回报率大概多少?投入呢?您的意见我很感兴趣!
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旧 Jan 30th, 2011, 11:16   只看该作者   #7
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请教只买生意不带物业是指什么操作?回报率大概多少?投入呢?您的意见我很感兴趣!
就是买个便利店

要交租金,加油2分钱1升的报酬
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旧 Jan 30th, 2011, 14:45   只看该作者   #8
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就是买个便利店 要交租金,加油2分钱1升的报酬
油的margin少则2-3分,多则7-8分。高油价对于gas station非常不利。信用卡费用2%,吃掉相当大,甚至绝大部分加油利润。所以加油站要靠量。每年3M升是中等水平。加油站附带的store或coffee的margin则高得多。

加油站基本是一个大的便利店。不同的是有environmental risk(油缸leak )
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昨天走进一家husky油站,本来想搭讪一下,考察一下生意如何,顺便问问盘下来大概多少银两。结果看店的老家伙(长相是东欧的)一脸苦相,爱理不理的样子,店面小得可怜,脏兮兮的。看不了这种后娘脸,走人。

话说回来,这样一个大路口的油站(48 & hwy7),是不是也得300万?
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昨天走进一家husky油站,本来想搭讪一下,考察一下生意如何,顺便问问盘下来大概多少银两。结果看店的老家伙(长相是东欧的)一脸苦相,爱理不理的样子,店面小得可怜,脏兮兮的。看不了这种后娘脸,走人。

话说回来,这样一个大路口的油站(48 & hwy7),是不是也得300万?...
本人关注过几个加油站(通过经纪问过),实地看过3个business only的。有几点体会
GTA附近或地点好的有物业的加油站很贵。经纪说band named station首付不少于35%,货另计。以2百万的油站,至少要8-9十万才能开张。回报率15%-20%之间。20%是很好的了。一般这个回报率是除掉人工,但包括owner自己salary。net before tax and debt.

business only的要便宜很多。但是好的地点租金不会便宜,每月上万。如果卖家数据不实,不小心被骗,就不幸变成给land lord打工,免费的。买生意的钱自然是血本无归。如果数据属实,作为起步,倒是不错。不过从广告上看,只卖business的要远远少于带物业一起卖的。

如果不在乎远一些,离GTA3-5个小时偏远的地方,有带物业的加油站喊价1百万之内。号称回报率20%以上甚至30%。没有考察过,不知真假。

生意买卖,很多水分,甚至骗局。有一个偏远小地方的Esso加油站,喊价50多万带物业,号称年入20万。打电话去一问,经纪说数据错了,是12万,不是20万。我还实地看过另一个Esso油站,喊价30万,去除所有开销,年入20万(too good to be true. 你信吗?)数据很漂亮。油300万/年,店100万/年。结果一看,从店的人流,货品,我相信店销售50万都不会有。
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旧 Feb 21st, 2011, 09:21   只看该作者   #11
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据我考察,加油站实际回报10~11%之间,许50%的首付

大牌的加油站

5M加油量,$3M左右
8M加油量,$4M左右
12M加油量,$6M左右
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