同志们，你们对於贺梅的事情是怎么看的？ - 第2页

heihou · May 13th, 2004, 18:23

估计那个母亲也不咋地, 居然把自己刚生几个月的孩子送到别人家, 还签了协议把监护权也给了别人, 心也太狠了吧. 没把贺梅卖了已经是贺梅的万幸, 就算是个文盲加法盲也不会随便签字啊. 这种人在国内会把女儿卖到窑子换钱.

法院判骨肉分离的事多了去了, 加拿大好些父母就被剥夺了抚养子女的权利. 这很正常. 有什么大惊小怪的.

xyzok · May 13th, 2004, 18:25

你根本就不懂一个有病的女人带一个刚出世的孩子是如何艰难！

xyzok · May 13th, 2004, 18:27

跟你这种冷血动物没什么可说的，到此为止。
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by heihou:
法院判骨肉分离的事多了去了, 加拿大好些父母就被剥夺了抚养子女的权利. 这很正常. 有什么大惊小怪的. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

heihou · May 13th, 2004, 18:27

在美国这种社会主义国家, 能艰难到哪里去? 艰难她怎么还不停地养?

giraffe · May 13th, 2004, 18:45

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 小叶子:
你根本就不懂一个有病的女人带一个刚出世的孩子是如何艰难！ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

我也不懂一个有病的女人带一个刚出世的孩子是如何艰难, 不过我更不懂一个母亲怎么会忍心把自己几个月的孩子交给陌生人.

天然 · May 13th, 2004, 18:49

这个case中，

母亲是可怜的，
父亲是冷酷的，
Brake是有爱心的，
爱，
是自私的。

xddj · May 13th, 2004, 19:09

说得好！就是不该把当事人名字给改了。

做了父母的人都很难理解怎么有人舍得把自己的孩子交给别人带，再怎么艰难，也比不上骨肉分离的难，自己的孩子送出去就像心头割了块肉似的。给自己父母带，都想得什么似的，何况给不相识的外人。
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 天然:
这个case中，

母亲是可怜的，
父亲是冷酷的，
Brake是有爱心的，
爱，
是自私的。 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

palmny · May 13th, 2004, 19:12

Mr. He is highly educated, both in the Peoples Republic of China and in the United States, and exhibits a high level of intelligence. He has demonstrated that he also has a high level of knowledge of the culture in the United States, that he is familiar with the justice system in Shelby County, Tennessee, and that he is proficient in his knowledge and use of the English language. He is proficient in computer skills, including the ability to access the Internet and to use website technology to garner resources and seek assistance from experts. He has an aggressive personality and shows no propensity to be deterred or intimidated. He is a thoughtful and deliberate person who exhibits a proclivity to calculate, plan, and carefully predetermine his action and behaviors. At all times relevant to this case, Mr. He has demonstrated the ability to access knowledgeable advisors in any area in which he needs assistance, to scrutinize the advice given, and, if dissatisfied with the advice, reject the advice and seek out other advisors.

_ Since 1998, Mr. He has repeatedly engaged in a pattern of conduct marked by deceitfulness and dishonesty, without remorse, repentance, or conscience, and has shown a propensity to justify all means, including perjury, for what Mr. He deems to be justifiable ends.

_ Mr. He admitted that he lied about his income, under oath, in his December 20, 2001, deposition and that he said things that he knew were not the truth. During his deposition, Mr. He also knowingly and willfully gave false testimony with respect to material facts concerning his and Mrs. He’s assets. The Court has previously found that Mr. He committed perjury while under oath in Court hearings and pleadings filed in this cause.

_ The Court reaffirms and incorporates herein by reference the findings made by the Court relative to the perjury of Mr. He in testimony given before the Court on February 14, 2002, as memorialized in the February 22, 2002, order entitled “Judgment On Order To Show Cause Pertaining To Passport” and the order entitled “Judgment On Order To Show Cause Pertaining To Documentation Of Marriage In The Republic Of China.”

_ The evidence also shows that Mr. He tried to procure an F-2 visa, in 1997, for another Chinese woman, who Mr. He claimed was his wife. Mr. He later admitted that this woman was not his wife and that he had committed a fraud on the University of Memphis.

_ Mr. He made material false statements on a loan application, dated October 18, 2001, relative to his employment, his income, his status as a student, and his personal references for the purpose of securing a loan for the purchase of a new vehicle.

_ Mr. He first entered the United States on a F-1 Student visa which allowed him to be employed and earn income. However, after he was suspended by the University of Memphis on September 20, 1999, and his student visa was revoked, Mr. He was not legally permitted to be employed and earn income in the United States. Nevertheless, Mr. He has been employed and earned income in the United States, since September 20, 1999, and has failed to report his income to the Internal Revenue Service, thus defrauding the United States government.

_ Mrs. He is an impetuous person not subject to being intimidated or deterred in achieving whatever she sets as her goal. The evidence shows that she is calculating, almost theatrical, in her actions. The evidence further shows that she is dishonest and manipulative, and has a history of acting in an unstable manner when it serves her own self-interest. For example, during cross-examination, Mrs. He would begin sobbing when asked difficult questions. However, Mrs. He would immediately regain her composure when asked subsequent questions. It appears to the Court that Mrs. He’s courtroom hysterics were calculated by Mrs. He in an effort to avoid answering the difficult cross-examination questions.

_ Though Mrs. He speaks sufficient English to carry on her daily affairs in the United States, she is not as proficient as Mr. He in knowledge or use of the English language and, unlike Mr. He, sometimes needs assistance with translation in technical or extraordinary use of the English language. She has confidence in Mr. He, prefers Mr. He as her translator, has no desire to part company with Mr. He for any reason and intends to cooperate fully with Mr. He to remain together with him as a family and believes Mr. He has never failed to keep her fully and honestly informed about the legal matters involving AMH.

_ Although Mrs. He does not speak the English language fluently, she appears to speak and understand English better than she professes. For example, Mrs. He spoke English during some of the Hes’ visits with AMH at the Bakers’ home and when Mrs. He took the Hes’ other children for medical treatment. She also spoke English during the incident when she was holding a sign outside of the Bakers’ home, and the Bakers’ neighbor, Rebecca Smith, asked Mrs. He to move her car, and she spoke English during the December 2003, incident at the Wal-Mart store. During the trial, in response to a question from attorney Linda Holmes, Mrs. He responded to the question by speaking in English, before the interpreter had begun interpreting Ms. Holmes’ question to Mrs. He. Mrs. He said, “Mr. Parrish filed legal motion,” then she stopped speaking English and began responding to the question in Chinese.

_ Mrs. He admitted signing a document in the Peoples Republic of China that falsely stated that she and Mr. He were married for the purpose of obtaining a visa allowing her to come to the United States.

_ Although the Hes were not married at the time, Mrs. He entered the United States illegally, in 1998, on a F-2 visa, as the wife of a person in the United States on a student visa, despite the fact that she indicated that she was single, not married, on AMH’s birth certificate.

_ Because of her status as an illegal alien, Mrs. He was not legally permitted to be employed and earn income. Nevertheless, Mrs. He has been employed and earned income in the United States throughout most of her stay, but has failed to report her income to the Internal Revenue Service, thus defrauding the United States government.

_ Mrs. He only seems to be interested in regaining custody of AMH when deportation seems imminent. This fact is evidenced by Mrs. He filing the two (2) petitions to modify custody in close proximity to receiving calls from the United States Immigration & Naturalization Service (“INS”), regarding Mr. and Mrs. Hes’ immigration status.

_ From the totality of the credible proof at trial, both Mr. and Mrs. He have shown themselves to be persons who do not consider themselves to be bound by the rule of law. Mr. and Mrs. He have demonstrated that they will do and say anything in order to achieve their desired goals.

palmny · May 13th, 2004, 19:17

贺的骗局

palmny · May 13th, 2004, 19:26

我一直跟踪这个案子，不同情贺。他贪婪无耻，欺骗成性。罗文化不高，本无可厚非，但太没有主见。今天的结果是他们自己酿下的苦果。不是所有的过错都可以更正过来的。他们打了几年的民族牌，还是没有得到太多的支持，因为国人更了解国人的心态，更能读懂他们作为的动机，也就更为之不齿。

多维的报道比较偏向，所以不可全信。虽然齐叙述的故事也不见得都真实，但我觉得至少揭示了贺没有说真话。象贺这么不甘吃亏的人，如果真的是太太被齐的丈夫打至大出血早产，如果真的的是齐诬告他学校错误解除他学籍，他不会善罢甘休的。

xyzok · May 13th, 2004, 19:28

你认为那些把孩子交给国内的父母的人跟交给陌生人有什么区别吗？那我来告诉你吧，其实是没有什么区别！交给父母的是因为除了父母以外没有人会给他们带！如果有那么一个人存在，说愿意给你带孩子，你认为那些把孩子送回国的人还会费那工夫吗？“他们看上去象好人”有这印象就足够了，何况还毕竟是在离自己不远处，还能经常见见，比送回国强多了。他们的错就在于想贪些便宜！那些把孩子送回国的哪个不是在想等孩子大点了好带了，再要回来？他们难道会不这样想吗？这样可以度过他们最难的时期。

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by giraffe:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 小叶子:
你根本就不懂一个有病的女人带一个刚出世的孩子是如何艰难！ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

我也不懂一个有病的女人带一个刚出世的孩子是如何艰难, 不过我更不懂一个母亲怎么会忍心把自己几个月的孩子交给陌生人. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

无事生非 · May 13th, 2004, 19:29

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 小叶子:
你根本就不懂一个有病的女人带一个刚出世的孩子是如何艰难！ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>我老婆身体健壮，都被这一个小孩累得半死。有病还能连续生仨？说胡话呢吧？我们家这小孩连送给父母带都做不到，他们能把老大送给老外后接着要第二，第三个。
和别的女人勾勾搭搭在先，把孩子送人在后，还真有女人同情他，这都什么世道啊！好在只有一个，说明大部分群众的眼睛是雪亮的。

天然 · May 13th, 2004, 19:32

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> 说得好！就是不该把当事人名字给改了。
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

哦，是够粗心的。

面包师变成车刹。

xyzok · May 13th, 2004, 19:38

我只同情那个母亲。
有病的人当然可以怀孕，人家可不可以是意外怀孕啊？
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 无事生非:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 小叶子:
你根本就不懂一个有病的女人带一个刚出世的孩子是如何艰难！ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>我老婆身体健壮，都被这一个小孩累得半死。有病还能连续生仨？说胡话呢吧？我们家这小孩连送给父母带都做不到，他们能把老大送给老外后接着要第二，第三个。
和别的女人勾勾搭搭在先，把孩子送人在后，还真有女人同情他，这都什么世道啊！好在只有一个，说明大部分群众的眼睛是雪亮的。 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

天然 · May 13th, 2004, 19:38

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> 我老婆身体健壮，都被这一个小孩累得半死。有病还能连续生仨？说胡话呢吧？我们家这小孩连送给父母带都做不到，他们能把老大送给老外后接着要第二，第三个。
和别的女人勾勾搭搭在先，把孩子送人在后，还真有女人同情他，这都什么世道啊！好在只有一个，说明大部分群众的眼睛是雪亮的。 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

同意，
敢情他们不想要女，想要生仔。

后来觉得有利可图，就见风使尽利。
这种人，没什么好同情的。
对于他妻子，最多是哀其不幸，怒其不争罢了。

专业修理师 · May 13th, 2004, 19:50

如此看来小叶子的抗辩过于偏颇牵强.想挺贺,也不能放弃道理. 在支持一个道理的时候,一定要考虑逻辑性.

无事生非 · May 13th, 2004, 19:54

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 小叶子:
我只同情那个母亲。
有病的人当然可以怀孕，人家可不可以是意外怀孕啊？
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
意外怀一个还说得过去，意外怀三个，你自己相不相信？他们俩肯定是商量好的，不过这下曝光了，签证也到期了，米国肯定呆不下去了，等他们回国再判给他们，三个小孩，怎么上户口？还不是要借着女儿的身份留在米国？

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滴水成冰 · May 13th, 2004, 19:55

同意天然的观点.
他们的情况是和把子女送回国完全不同的. 送回去, 一般是放在爷爷, 奶奶, 外公外婆, 姑姑阿姨家, 父母清楚知道他们会得到良好的照顾, 而且只要一过了过度时期, 随时可接孩子回来,而他们是把孩子寄给陌生人带, 真爱孩子, 不可能做出这种决定.

palmny · May 13th, 2004, 19:56

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 小叶子:
你认为那些把孩子交给国内的父母的人跟交给陌生人有什么区别吗？那我来告诉你吧，其实是没有什么区别！交给父母的是因为除了父母以外没有人会给他们带！如果有那么一个人存在，说愿意给你带孩子，你认为那些把孩子送回国的人还会费那工夫吗？“他们看上去象好人”有这印象就足够了，何况还毕竟是在离自己不远处，还能经常见见，比送回国强多了。他们的错就在于想贪些便宜！那些把孩子送回国的哪个不是在想等孩子大点了好带了，再要回来？他们难道会不这样想吗？这样可以度过他们最难的时期。

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
他们和那些送孩子回国的不一样。
要知道贺梅被送到贝克家仅仅28天！连满月都没有满月！先签了3个月的临时寄养合同，可3个月人家要还孩子时，他们没有ready!而这个时候中间牵线的机构已经不可以handle了(他们最多可以管90天的寄养)，这才出现了后面签转让监护权的事。这一养就又是两年，直到后来发生矛盾。

有报道说贺和罗98年5月才相识，而贺梅99年1月就早产出生了，估计这已经是一个意外了。就算第二个孩子又是意外，难道第三个还是？有点责任感的人能这么干吗？

贪小便宜吃大亏！有些错是永远不可以犯的！

xyzok · May 13th, 2004, 19:57

我是就事论事。贺是个什么样的人我没兴趣，我只是觉得如果贺夫妇是个100%的好人，他们还是会输掉这场官司，因为这就是美国的法律。
悲剧啊悲剧！
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 专业修理师:
如此看来小叶子的抗辩过于偏颇牵强.想挺贺,也不能放弃道理. 在支持一个道理的时候,一定要考虑逻辑性.

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heihou Super Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 101	估计那个母亲也不咋地, 居然把自己刚生几个月的孩子送到别人家, 还签了协议把监护权也给了别人, 心也太狠了吧. 没把贺梅卖了已经是贺梅的万幸, 就算是个文盲加法盲也不会随便签字啊. 这种人在国内会把女儿卖到窑子换钱. 法院判骨肉分离的事多了去了, 加拿大好些父母就被剥夺了抚养子女的权利. 这很正常. 有什么大惊小怪的.
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xyzok Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 3,719 积分:35 精华:10 声望: 2330163	跟你这种冷血动物没什么可说的，到此为止。 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by heihou: 法院判骨肉分离的事多了去了, 加拿大好些父母就被剥夺了抚养子女的权利. 这很正常. 有什么大惊小怪的. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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giraffe Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 1,364 积分:28 精华:8 声望: 107468161	<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 小叶子: 你根本就不懂一个有病的女人带一个刚出世的孩子是如何艰难！ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> 我也不懂一个有病的女人带一个刚出世的孩子是如何艰难, 不过我更不懂一个母亲怎么会忍心把自己几个月的孩子交给陌生人.

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天然 Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 294 声望: 0	这个case中，母亲是可怜的，父亲是冷酷的， Brake是有爱心的，爱，是自私的。
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xddj Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 146 声望: 0	说得好！就是不该把当事人名字给改了。做了父母的人都很难理解怎么有人舍得把自己的孩子交给别人带，再怎么艰难，也比不上骨肉分离的难，自己的孩子送出去就像心头割了块肉似的。给自己父母带，都想得什么似的，何况给不相识的外人。 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 天然: 这个case中，母亲是可怜的，父亲是冷酷的， Brake是有爱心的，爱，是自私的。 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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xyzok Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 3,719 积分:35 精华:10 声望: 2330163	你根本就不懂一个有病的女人带一个刚出世的孩子是如何艰难！

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heihou Super Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 101 声望: 638	在美国这种社会主义国家, 能艰难到哪里去? 艰难她怎么还不停地养?

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palmny Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 97 声望: 0	Mr. He is highly educated, both in the Peoples Republic of China and in the United States, and exhibits a high level of intelligence. He has demonstrated that he also has a high level of knowledge of the culture in the United States, that he is familiar with the justice system in Shelby County, Tennessee, and that he is proficient in his knowledge and use of the English language. He is proficient in computer skills, including the ability to access the Internet and to use website technology to garner resources and seek assistance from experts. He has an aggressive personality and shows no propensity to be deterred or intimidated. He is a thoughtful and deliberate person who exhibits a proclivity to calculate, plan, and carefully predetermine his action and behaviors. At all times relevant to this case, Mr. He has demonstrated the ability to access knowledgeable advisors in any area in which he needs assistance, to scrutinize the advice given, and, if dissatisfied with the advice, reject the advice and seek out other advisors. _ Since 1998, Mr. He has repeatedly engaged in a pattern of conduct marked by deceitfulness and dishonesty, without remorse, repentance, or conscience, and has shown a propensity to justify all means, including perjury, for what Mr. He deems to be justifiable ends. _ Mr. He admitted that he lied about his income, under oath, in his December 20, 2001, deposition and that he said things that he knew were not the truth. During his deposition, Mr. He also knowingly and willfully gave false testimony with respect to material facts concerning his and Mrs. He’s assets. The Court has previously found that Mr. He committed perjury while under oath in Court hearings and pleadings filed in this cause. _ The Court reaffirms and incorporates herein by reference the findings made by the Court relative to the perjury of Mr. He in testimony given before the Court on February 14, 2002, as memorialized in the February 22, 2002, order entitled “Judgment On Order To Show Cause Pertaining To Passport” and the order entitled “Judgment On Order To Show Cause Pertaining To Documentation Of Marriage In The Republic Of China.” _ The evidence also shows that Mr. He tried to procure an F-2 visa, in 1997, for another Chinese woman, who Mr. He claimed was his wife. Mr. He later admitted that this woman was not his wife and that he had committed a fraud on the University of Memphis. _ Mr. He made material false statements on a loan application, dated October 18, 2001, relative to his employment, his income, his status as a student, and his personal references for the purpose of securing a loan for the purchase of a new vehicle. _ Mr. He first entered the United States on a F-1 Student visa which allowed him to be employed and earn income. However, after he was suspended by the University of Memphis on September 20, 1999, and his student visa was revoked, Mr. He was not legally permitted to be employed and earn income in the United States. Nevertheless, Mr. He has been employed and earned income in the United States, since September 20, 1999, and has failed to report his income to the Internal Revenue Service, thus defrauding the United States government. _ Mrs. He is an impetuous person not subject to being intimidated or deterred in achieving whatever she sets as her goal. The evidence shows that she is calculating, almost theatrical, in her actions. The evidence further shows that she is dishonest and manipulative, and has a history of acting in an unstable manner when it serves her own self-interest. For example, during cross-examination, Mrs. He would begin sobbing when asked difficult questions. However, Mrs. He would immediately regain her composure when asked subsequent questions. It appears to the Court that Mrs. He’s courtroom hysterics were calculated by Mrs. He in an effort to avoid answering the difficult cross-examination questions. _ Though Mrs. He speaks sufficient English to carry on her daily affairs in the United States, she is not as proficient as Mr. He in knowledge or use of the English language and, unlike Mr. He, sometimes needs assistance with translation in technical or extraordinary use of the English language. She has confidence in Mr. He, prefers Mr. He as her translator, has no desire to part company with Mr. He for any reason and intends to cooperate fully with Mr. He to remain together with him as a family and believes Mr. He has never failed to keep her fully and honestly informed about the legal matters involving AMH. _ Although Mrs. He does not speak the English language fluently, she appears to speak and understand English better than she professes. For example, Mrs. He spoke English during some of the Hes’ visits with AMH at the Bakers’ home and when Mrs. He took the Hes’ other children for medical treatment. She also spoke English during the incident when she was holding a sign outside of the Bakers’ home, and the Bakers’ neighbor, Rebecca Smith, asked Mrs. He to move her car, and she spoke English during the December 2003, incident at the Wal-Mart store. During the trial, in response to a question from attorney Linda Holmes, Mrs. He responded to the question by speaking in English, before the interpreter had begun interpreting Ms. Holmes’ question to Mrs. He. Mrs. He said, “Mr. Parrish filed legal motion,” then she stopped speaking English and began responding to the question in Chinese. _ Mrs. He admitted signing a document in the Peoples Republic of China that falsely stated that she and Mr. He were married for the purpose of obtaining a visa allowing her to come to the United States. _ Although the Hes were not married at the time, Mrs. He entered the United States illegally, in 1998, on a F-2 visa, as the wife of a person in the United States on a student visa, despite the fact that she indicated that she was single, not married, on AMH’s birth certificate. _ Because of her status as an illegal alien, Mrs. He was not legally permitted to be employed and earn income. Nevertheless, Mrs. He has been employed and earned income in the United States throughout most of her stay, but has failed to report her income to the Internal Revenue Service, thus defrauding the United States government. _ Mrs. He only seems to be interested in regaining custody of AMH when deportation seems imminent. This fact is evidenced by Mrs. He filing the two (2) petitions to modify custody in close proximity to receiving calls from the United States Immigration & Naturalization Service (“INS”), regarding Mr. and Mrs. Hes’ immigration status. _ From the totality of the credible proof at trial, both Mr. and Mrs. He have shown themselves to be persons who do not consider themselves to be bound by the rule of law. Mr. and Mrs. He have demonstrated that they will do and say anything in order to achieve their desired goals.
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May 13th, 2004, 19:17	只看该作者 #29
palmny Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 97 声望: 0	贺的骗局
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May 13th, 2004, 19:26	只看该作者 #30
palmny Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 97 声望: 0	我一直跟踪这个案子，不同情贺。他贪婪无耻，欺骗成性。罗文化不高，本无可厚非，但太没有主见。今天的结果是他们自己酿下的苦果。不是所有的过错都可以更正过来的。他们打了几年的民族牌，还是没有得到太多的支持，因为国人更了解国人的心态，更能读懂他们作为的动机，也就更为之不齿。多维的报道比较偏向，所以不可全信。虽然齐叙述的故事也不见得都真实，但我觉得至少揭示了贺没有说真话。象贺这么不甘吃亏的人，如果真的是太太被齐的丈夫打至大出血早产，如果真的的是齐诬告他学校错误解除他学籍，他不会善罢甘休的。
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May 13th, 2004, 19:28	只看该作者 #31
xyzok Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 3,719 积分:35 精华:10 声望: 2330163	你认为那些把孩子交给国内的父母的人跟交给陌生人有什么区别吗？那我来告诉你吧，其实是没有什么区别！交给父母的是因为除了父母以外没有人会给他们带！如果有那么一个人存在，说愿意给你带孩子，你认为那些把孩子送回国的人还会费那工夫吗？“他们看上去象好人”有这印象就足够了，何况还毕竟是在离自己不远处，还能经常见见，比送回国强多了。他们的错就在于想贪些便宜！那些把孩子送回国的哪个不是在想等孩子大点了好带了，再要回来？他们难道会不这样想吗？这样可以度过他们最难的时期。 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by giraffe: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 小叶子: 你根本就不懂一个有病的女人带一个刚出世的孩子是如何艰难！ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> 我也不懂一个有病的女人带一个刚出世的孩子是如何艰难, 不过我更不懂一个母亲怎么会忍心把自己几个月的孩子交给陌生人. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

May 13th, 2004, 19:29	只看该作者 #32
无事生非 Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 206 声望: 0	<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 小叶子: 你根本就不懂一个有病的女人带一个刚出世的孩子是如何艰难！ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>我老婆身体健壮，都被这一个小孩累得半死。有病还能连续生仨？说胡话呢吧？我们家这小孩连送给父母带都做不到，他们能把老大送给老外后接着要第二，第三个。和别的女人勾勾搭搭在先，把孩子送人在后，还真有女人同情他，这都什么世道啊！好在只有一个，说明大部分群众的眼睛是雪亮的。
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May 13th, 2004, 19:32	只看该作者 #33
天然 Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 294 声望: 0	<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> 说得好！就是不该把当事人名字给改了。 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> 哦，是够粗心的。面包师变成车刹。
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May 13th, 2004, 19:38	只看该作者 #34
xyzok Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 3,719 积分:35 精华:10 声望: 2330163	我只同情那个母亲。有病的人当然可以怀孕，人家可不可以是意外怀孕啊？ <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 无事生非: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 小叶子: 你根本就不懂一个有病的女人带一个刚出世的孩子是如何艰难！ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>我老婆身体健壮，都被这一个小孩累得半死。有病还能连续生仨？说胡话呢吧？我们家这小孩连送给父母带都做不到，他们能把老大送给老外后接着要第二，第三个。和别的女人勾勾搭搭在先，把孩子送人在后，还真有女人同情他，这都什么世道啊！好在只有一个，说明大部分群众的眼睛是雪亮的。 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

May 13th, 2004, 19:38	只看该作者 #35
天然 Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 294 声望: 0	<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> 我老婆身体健壮，都被这一个小孩累得半死。有病还能连续生仨？说胡话呢吧？我们家这小孩连送给父母带都做不到，他们能把老大送给老外后接着要第二，第三个。和别的女人勾勾搭搭在先，把孩子送人在后，还真有女人同情他，这都什么世道啊！好在只有一个，说明大部分群众的眼睛是雪亮的。 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> 同意，敢情他们不想要女，想要生仔。后来觉得有利可图，就见风使尽利。这种人，没什么好同情的。对于他妻子，最多是哀其不幸，怒其不争罢了。
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May 13th, 2004, 19:50	只看该作者 #36
专业修理师 Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 住址: 皮破奥斧枪一拿帖子: 741 声望: 95	如此看来小叶子的抗辩过于偏颇牵强.想挺贺,也不能放弃道理. 在支持一个道理的时候,一定要考虑逻辑性.

May 13th, 2004, 19:54	只看该作者 #37
无事生非 Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 206 声望: 0	<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 小叶子: 我只同情那个母亲。有病的人当然可以怀孕，人家可不可以是意外怀孕啊？ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> 意外怀一个还说得过去，意外怀三个，你自己相不相信？他们俩肯定是商量好的，不过这下曝光了，签证也到期了，米国肯定呆不下去了，等他们回国再判给他们，三个小孩，怎么上户口？还不是要借着女儿的身份留在米国？
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May 13th, 2004, 19:55	只看该作者 #38
滴水成冰 spring is coming 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 269 声望: 52	同意天然的观点. 他们的情况是和把子女送回国完全不同的. 送回去, 一般是放在爷爷, 奶奶, 外公外婆, 姑姑阿姨家, 父母清楚知道他们会得到良好的照顾, 而且只要一过了过度时期, 随时可接孩子回来,而他们是把孩子寄给陌生人带, 真爱孩子, 不可能做出这种决定.
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May 13th, 2004, 19:56	只看该作者 #39
palmny Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 97 声望: 0	<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 小叶子: 你认为那些把孩子交给国内的父母的人跟交给陌生人有什么区别吗？那我来告诉你吧，其实是没有什么区别！交给父母的是因为除了父母以外没有人会给他们带！如果有那么一个人存在，说愿意给你带孩子，你认为那些把孩子送回国的人还会费那工夫吗？“他们看上去象好人”有这印象就足够了，何况还毕竟是在离自己不远处，还能经常见见，比送回国强多了。他们的错就在于想贪些便宜！那些把孩子送回国的哪个不是在想等孩子大点了好带了，再要回来？他们难道会不这样想吗？这样可以度过他们最难的时期。 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> 他们和那些送孩子回国的不一样。要知道贺梅被送到贝克家仅仅28天！连满月都没有满月！先签了3个月的临时寄养合同，可3个月人家要还孩子时，他们没有ready!而这个时候中间牵线的机构已经不可以handle了(他们最多可以管90天的寄养)，这才出现了后面签转让监护权的事。这一养就又是两年，直到后来发生矛盾。有报道说贺和罗98年5月才相识，而贺梅99年1月就早产出生了，估计这已经是一个意外了。就算第二个孩子又是意外，难道第三个还是？有点责任感的人能这么干吗？贪小便宜吃大亏！有些错是永远不可以犯的！
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May 13th, 2004, 19:57	只看该作者 #40
xyzok Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 3,719 积分:35 精华:10 声望: 2330163	我是就事论事。贺是个什么样的人我没兴趣，我只是觉得如果贺夫妇是个100%的好人，他们还是会输掉这场官司，因为这就是美国的法律。悲剧啊悲剧！ <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 专业修理师: 如此看来小叶子的抗辩过于偏颇牵强.想挺贺,也不能放弃道理. 在支持一个道理的时候,一定要考虑逻辑性. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>