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旧 Mar 10th, 2009, 09:55   只看该作者   #181
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请问楼主,本周六11:30am你店开门不?想去看看,多谢。
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旧 Mar 10th, 2009, 21:04   只看该作者   #182
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默认 请教避雷问题

如果天线高度超过烟囱高度,仅靠CABLE接地安全吗?是否要从天线架连线接地避雷?

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旧 Mar 10th, 2009, 22:29   只看该作者   #183
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请问楼主,本周六11:30am你店开门不?想去看看,多谢。
2211不见了?@!

If I could help you, I would help you.
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旧 Mar 10th, 2009, 22:54   只看该作者   #184
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如果天线高度超过烟囱高度,仅靠CABLE接地安全吗?是否要从天线架连线接地避雷?

谢谢!
IMO, 被雷劈等同中649的机会。不过接地线更好。
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旧 Mar 11th, 2009, 01:42   只看该作者   #185
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默认 我回中国了,4月份才回来

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2211不见了?@!
买天线的朋友可以直接到店里或先打电话询问店里是否有人,我知道老板应该在店里。
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旧 Mar 11th, 2009, 15:43   只看该作者   #186
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现在这种天线卖到$30以下在多伦多很容易找到。

旅游就是暂时离开自己呆腻了地方到别人呆腻了地方去看看
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旧 Mar 11th, 2009, 20:44   只看该作者   #187
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买天线的朋友可以直接到店里或先打电话询问店里是否有人,我知道老板应该在店里。
那就等你回来吧,你老板也经常不在(因为你不在)
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旧 Mar 12th, 2009, 10:11   只看该作者   #188
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现在这种天线卖到$30以下在多伦多很容易找到。
cm4221的比较贵和仿制天线有很大区别吗?
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旧 Mar 12th, 2009, 14:14   只看该作者   #189
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默认 买条接地线,接在水管上。

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如果天线高度超过烟囱高度,仅靠CABLE接地安全吗?是否要从天线架连线接地避雷?

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CABLE不避雷
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默认 有点像军用的,在多伦多不知哪里有卖的?

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2211,网上正在热卖一种户外天线,效果很好。就是:
CORNET ET-3A天线,自带放大器,有遥控旋转电机,可360度角任意调整方向,效果也比一般的天线好得多,很受欢迎。本来价钱也不贵,但是邮费很贵,你们要是能联系到此货保证会卖得很好。网上一般销售价格在30至60美元一套,零售有的在90美圆以...
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旧 Mar 12th, 2009, 15:53   只看该作者   #191
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cm4221的比较贵和仿制天线有很大区别吗?...
区别还是有的,是不是很大,要看你的信号是否正好在临界点附近,信号强一点儿就能收到,弱一点儿就完全收不到。

如果信号很强,或者信号非常弱,那基本上就没区别了。

实验室里的数据, CM4221是各频道增益最强的。多出来的这么0.5DB, 1DB是否很关键,就要看实际情况了。
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旧 Mar 12th, 2009, 15:57   只看该作者   #192
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CABLE不避雷...
我一直在考虑,如果把cable外面的屏蔽层连到天线上,再cable接地是不是也可以呢?至少可以释放天线上累积的静电。

因为据说如果直接被雷击中,需要至少直径1尺的铜线才可以把全部电流引走。普通天线的地线也主要是释放静电以避雷。
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旧 Mar 12th, 2009, 16:12   只看该作者   #193
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cm4221的比较贵和仿制天线有很大区别吗?
191楼说的有道理,但正好碰到临界情况的可能性不是很大。
从这个意义上说,区别不大。
安装天线的高度,方向和传输电缆的质量往往更重要。
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旧 Mar 12th, 2009, 21:32   只看该作者   #194
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多谢cbitmap和friend2k3。听说现在还有一种cm4221HD,是cm4221的改进型,不知强在哪里?楼主的店里有卖没?多少钱?

RH/Markham/Scar地区还有其他店铺卖这个吗?想周六去看看,楼主千万要看店开门哦
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多谢cbitmap和friend2k3。听说现在还有一种cm4221HD,是cm4221的改进型,不知强在哪里?楼主的店里有卖没?多少钱?

RH/Markham/Scar地区还有其他店铺卖这个吗?想周六去看看,楼主千万要看店开门哦
楼主回中国了,4月份才回来
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默认 好像有卖GROUNDING BLOCK 的,

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我一直在考虑,如果把cable外面的屏蔽层连到天线上,再cable接地是不是也可以呢?至少可以释放天线上累积的静电。

因为据说如果直接被雷击中,需要至少直径1尺的铜线才可以把全部电流引走。普通天线的地线也主要是释放静电以避雷。
直接接到cable
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我一直在考虑,如果把cable外面的屏蔽层连到天线上,再cable接地是不是也可以呢?至少可以释放天线上累积的静电。

因为据说如果直接被雷击中,需要至少直径1尺的铜线才可以把全部电流引走。普通天线的地线也主要是释放静电以避雷。
下面是我从GOOGLE上找到的电视天线避雷安装说明:
Important: Grounding
At this point you must ground the antenna to protect your valuable HDTV equipment from electrical surges.
First, make sure all of your gearis plugged into a quality surge protector, preferably one that's guaranteed for at least the amount of your equipment cost.

Then attach a coax grounding block, available at any RadioShack, to a point near where the cable enters the building.
Connect one length of your coax antenna cable between the block and antenna and a second length between the other end of the block and your HDTV receiver.
Then run a length of grounding wire from the block to a suitable grounding point.

Grounding points can be a true earth ground (defined as a length of pipe driven 8 feet or more into the ground) or a cold-water pipe. The best place to find true ground is at an electrical sub-panel, comms wiring closet or the building construction steel itself. If you use a pipe, make sure to remove any paint at the point to which you attach the grounding wire. Since in new construction many pipes are PVC along some of their lenghts instead of metal, they may not be reliable grounds.

You also need to ground the antenna itself by running another length of grounding wire between the antenna and ground point. Your antenna itself may have special instructions for grounding; if so, be sure to follow them. If you're not sure you've grounded your antenna correctly, consult a professional experienced in installing antennas or the manufacturer of your antenna itself.

With your antenna safely installed, you can now enjoy free over-the-air HDTV.

我已经用了coax grounding block,但看来还要ground the antenna itself by running another length of grounding wire between the antenna and ground point.请大虾指教这个是否必要.
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旧 Mar 15th, 2009, 18:42   只看该作者   #198
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需要单独的地线是房屋,还是布线的什么code定的,至少在美国是这样,必须遵守,这东西就和法律规定一样。否则一旦因雷击失火,保险公司不赔。另外会不会有连带责任就不知道了。

另外卫星天线据说也有同样的要求,但是据我估计没有几个直接把天线接地的。甚至还有不少coax都不接地的。好像也没有太大问题。

因雷击而起火的新闻,这几年我从来没有见到过。电坏电视机,到还是有可能的。在进线上装一个surge protector可能也将就,不过我没有试过,不知道是否会把信号衰减得太多。

总之,按规矩办最放心了。我的看法从技术角度看,不是一定要装一个单独的地线的,用其他办法效果也查不太多。但是从法规,规定的角度看,是一需定要的。法规考虑的即使是极小概率的情况也不能出事。比如说按规定grounding block一定要装在室外,但实际上,相当多的房子都把这装在室内。基本上所有的cable的grounding block也都是被直接装在室内的,按道理说也都是不对的。
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