【求助】请教流程: 如何在加拿大给美国客户远程工作?

木匠 · Dec 11th, 2007, 01:27

各位老大, 如果您有过在加拿大给美国客户远程工作经历, 多谢指教!

(在加拿大给美国客户远程工作的付费和纳税)?

美国公司如何付钱?

是否给美国缴税?

是否需要在加拿大注册公司?

OrientExpress · Dec 11th, 2007, 02:01

估计你是搞ORACLE系统维护或开发的,这样的话VPN远程接入美国客户应该是通常的手段了.至于远程会议等要看对方要求了.一般公司都有WEBEX之类的
注册个公司很容易,拿着公司注册号去开个银行帐号,然后就等对方电子转帐或寄支票了. 财务税务最好找个专业会计师.一年千把来块钱的开支,都可以打入公司运营成本.

木匠 · Dec 12th, 2007, 00:28

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作者: OrientExpress

估计你是搞ORACLE系统维护或开发的,这样的话VPN远程接入美国客户应该是通常的手段了.至于远程会议等要看对方要求了.一般公司都有WEBEX之类的
注册个公司很容易,拿着公司注册号去开个银行帐号,然后就等对方电子转帐或寄支票了. 财务税务最好找个专业会计师.一年千把来块钱的开支,都可以打入公司运...

Hi OrientExpress, 多谢指点. 对呀, 咱是干 Oracle DBA (东北口音DBA) 的.

还有两个问题:

1)
美国公司 "电子转帐或寄支票" 来支付工钱对双方都合法吗?
2)
我或者美国公司是否需要给美国缴税?

用WEBEX进行远程会议, 我倒没想到, 很有启发. 再次感谢!

木匠

ChinaSmileJoe · Dec 12th, 2007, 08:56

1) 合法
2) 不用

木匠 · Jan 15th, 2008, 17:06

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作者: ChinaSmileJoe

1) 合法
2) 不用

请参考下面链接, 美国客户(Payor)需要会预先扣缴 30% 的税.

http://taxes.about.com/od/taxplanning/qt/form_W8BEN.htm

http://www.irs.gov/instructions/iw8/index.html

* US Withholding for Canadian Independent Contractors *
-- Using Form W-8BEN to Claim US-Canada Tax Treaty Benefits

Withholding

The tax treaty specifically allows for US companies to withhold income taxes on self-employed Canadian residents (Article XVII, paragraph 1). Withholding will be 10% on the first $5,000 of income, and 30% on income over that threshold. The client and independent contractor may agree on a lesser percentage of withholding if these amounts are considered "excessive" (Article XVII, paragraph 2).

Normally, US companies are required to "withhold 30% of any payment of an amount subject to withholding made to a payee that is a foreign person" (Instructions for Form W-8BEN). Form W-8BEN is used to inform the US company that you are "a beneficial owner that is a foreign person entitled to a reduced rate of withholding." You qualify for a reduced rate of withholding if you meet the residency and fixed place of business rules.

请指点.

木匠 · Feb 3rd, 2008, 22:44

在加拿大给美国客户远程工作, 相关流程总结

http://zhu1.blogspot.com/2008/02/blog-post.html

Knowledge_IS_Power · Feb 4th, 2008, 09:52

>>请参考下面链接, 美国客户(Payor)需要会预先扣缴 30% 的税.

This is wrong info. If you perform the service from Canada, the income is not US source of income and is not taxable by US government.

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/...=96459,00.html

It is confusing, but generally speaking if you are not a US citizen or green card holder, and you did not perform service in US territary, the income is not "US income" and not subject to withholding. W-8 forms are used when your have such an income.

木匠 · Feb 10th, 2008, 15:37

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作者: Knowledge_IS_Power

>>请参考下面链接, 美国客户(Payor)需要会预先扣缴 30% 的税.

This is wrong info. If you perform the service from Canada, the income is not US source of income and ...

多谢指点. 这里又引出两个问题.

1)
"W-8 forms are used when your have such an income." 这句话没看懂.
w8 是针对美国人 (US citizen or green card holder) ?
我(Nonresident Aliens)还需不需要填 form_W8BEN.htm ?

2)
请给出Canadian Independent Contractors不用给美国缴税的irs链接.
是不是这个 http://www.irs.gov/publications/p519/ch02.html#d0e1779 ?

--
Nonresident Aliens

A nonresident alien usually is subject to U.S. income tax only on U.S. source income.
--

Knowledge_IS_Power · Feb 11th, 2008, 11:38

W8 serves the purpose of 1099 for US residents. They merely relieves the payee from withholding the tax on "US income". If you are a non-resident, you need to look at the definitions of "US income".

Banking interest, dividends, property rental income are US source income.

Income from services rendered in US are US source income.

Income from services rednered outside US are NOT US source income, even paid from a US company. See the IRS example:

>>Christina Brooks, a resident of the Netherlands, worked 240 days for a U.S. >>company during the tax year. She received $80,000 in compensation. None of it >>was for fringe benefits. Christina performed services in the United States for 60 >>days and performed services in the Netherlands for 180 days. Using the time >>basis for determining the source of compensation, $20,000 ($80,000 × 60/240) >>is her U.S. source income.

木匠 · Feb 11th, 2008, 19:18

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作者: Knowledge_IS_Power

W8 serves the purpose of 1099 for US residents. They merely relieves the payee from withholding the tax on "US income". If you are a non-res...

太好了, 不用向美国缴税, 一个疙瘩问题解决了.

最后一个问题, 那么对美国和美国客户, 我啥表也不用填?

木匠 · Feb 21st, 2008, 16:15

刚刚打电话,问了会计师, 确认不用向美国缴税.

下来就是明年报税, 找会计的问题了.

-- 完 --

gugu · Mar 9th, 2008, 19:55

问题:你作为加拿大公民, 没有美国的SSN或者TAX ID,怎么和对方合同呢？就算是REMOTE也要有tax id吧？

oldcobol · Mar 9th, 2008, 20:10

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作者: gugu

问题:你作为加拿大公民, 没有美国的SSN或者TAX ID,怎么和对方合同呢？就算是REMOTE也要有tax id吧？

他不是公民，它是一个有限公司

gugu · Mar 9th, 2008, 20:21

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作者: oldcobol

他不是公民，它是一个有限公司

他上面可是问了要不要注册公司。而且就算他注册了有限公司，他肯定还是要有美国的税号的，不然美国那边的公司怎么处理给他付的支出？

木匠 · Mar 29th, 2008, 23:58

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作者: gugu

他上面可是问了要不要注册公司。而且就算他注册了有限公司，他肯定还是要有美国的税号的，不然美国那边的公司怎么处理给他付的支出？

邮寄支票或者汇款就行了.

加拿大和美国有协议美国免税. 具体请看上面的URL链接.

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Knowledge_IS_Power Senior Emperor 注册日期: Aug 2004 帖子: 508 声望: 56737	>>请参考下面链接, 美国客户(Payor)需要会预先扣缴 30% 的税. This is wrong info. If you perform the service from Canada, the income is not US source of income and is not taxable by US government. http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/...=96459,00.html It is confusing, but generally speaking if you are not a US citizen or green card holder, and you did not perform service in US territary, the income is not "US income" and not subject to withholding. W-8 forms are used when your have such an income.
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木匠丹江草注册日期: Mar 2006 住址: 西安珠海广州厦门香港深圳北京Victoria,BC,Canada 帖子: 333 声望: 203702	问过会计师了无需向美国缴税刚刚打电话,问了会计师, 确认不用向美国缴税. 下来就是明年报税, 找会计的问题了. -- 完 --

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OrientExpress Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 443 声望: 28711	估计你是搞ORACLE系统维护或开发的,这样的话VPN远程接入美国客户应该是通常的手段了.至于远程会议等要看对方要求了.一般公司都有WEBEX之类的注册个公司很容易,拿着公司注册号去开个银行帐号,然后就等对方电子转帐或寄支票了. 财务税务最好找个专业会计师.一年千把来块钱的开支,都可以打入公司运营成本.

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Knowledge_IS_Power Senior Emperor 注册日期: Aug 2004 帖子: 508 声望: 56737	W8 serves the purpose of 1099 for US residents. They merely relieves the payee from withholding the tax on "US income". If you are a non-resident, you need to look at the definitions of "US income". Banking interest, dividends, property rental income are US source income. Income from services rendered in US are US source income. Income from services rednered outside US are NOT US source income, even paid from a US company. See the IRS example: >>Christina Brooks, a resident of the Netherlands, worked 240 days for a U.S. >>company during the tax year. She received $80,000 in compensation. None of it >>was for fringe benefits. Christina performed services in the United States for 60 >>days and performed services in the Netherlands for 180 days. Using the time >>basis for determining the source of compensation, $20,000 ($80,000 × 60/240) >>is her U.S. source income.