日本的福岛，苏联切诺贝利，美国的三岛

Erich · Mar 12th, 2011, 23:23

NEW: "We see the possibility of a meltdown," official says

[9:54 p.m. ET, 11:54 a.m. Tokyo] A meltdown may have occurred at at least one nuclear power reactor in Japan, the country's chief cabinet secretary, Yukio Edano, said Sunday.

He also said that authorities are concerned over the possibility of another meltdown at a second reactor.

"We do believe that there is a possibility that meltdown has occurred. It is inside the reactor. We can't see. However, we are assuming that a meltdown has occurred," he said of the No. 1 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear facility. "And with reactor No. 3, we are also assuming that the possibility of a meltdown as we carry out measures."

Edano's comments confirm an earlier report from an official with Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, who said, "we see the possibility of a meltdown."

A meltdown is a catastrophic failure of the reactor core, with a potential for widespread radiation release. However, Toshihiro Bannai, director of the agency's international affairs office, expressed confidence that efforts to control the crisis would be successful.

根据经验，政府说话从来都是留几分的，看样子很不乐观了

Erich · Mar 13th, 2011, 00:26

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作者: dangbl

通过打开排气阀和灌注冷却水，第一、第二核电站的７台机组都终于达到以下状态：1 核反应完全停止 2 反应堆堆心熔解停止３反应堆外密闭容器内压力、温度都已回落

控制住了，接下来就要检测污染了。。。

这个消息出来了么？cnn和cbc都没有更新呢，不过对于地球人来说算个好消息

Erich · Mar 13th, 2011, 00:34

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作者: polarman

狗日的能力要比欧美的强,要相信他们的实力

按照前面那个专业人士的帖子内容看，如果堆芯有溶化要停下来需要混合很多东西或者能够降温到可控范围，都不是一个短时间能完成的任务

Erich · Mar 13th, 2011, 00:37

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作者: dangbl

ty上直播的，应该是目前最新的

在善后方面，米国比霓虹还是要厉害得多

霓虹在第一时间拒绝了米国的冷却剂，后来局面无法控制。。。说明了什么？

无论如何，如果能确认都算是个好消息。不过这次真的把鬼子折腾的不轻，估计下面一堆烂摊子

Erich · Mar 13th, 2011, 00:52

干脆用老毛子以前设计对付小鬼子的地球物理武器直接把那几个岛陆沉掉算了，唐僧说”世界终于清静了“

Erich · Mar 13th, 2011, 03:20

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作者: dangbl

[13:48]东北电力报告首相官邸对策总部，宫城县内女川核电站厂区放射物质浓度增加。

意味着啥？

Erich · Mar 13th, 2011, 03:22

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作者: dangbl

看了这核泄漏图第1想到是加州蔬菜水果业危险...

没地吃怎么办？以后搬到东海岸吃大西洋的海鲜危险不？

Erich · Mar 13th, 2011, 03:30

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作者: dangbl

[13:48]东北电力报告首相官邸对策总部，宫城县内女川核电站厂区放射物质浓度增加。

看你转的那个消息应该是反应停止了，后面的放射性浓度增加是不是冷却水出来了还是什么原因？

Erich · Mar 13th, 2011, 03:46

“大家都卖了房子、辞了工，取出钱来该吃吃点、该玩玩玩......”

Erich · Mar 13th, 2011, 03:57

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作者: dangbl

好多LD都觉悟了。。。

加州人民是不是在屯海带了

这礼拜大统华帝王蟹特价，是不是趁没污染呢先弄个尝尝？水果也得多买点

Erich · Mar 13th, 2011, 04:01

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作者: dangbl

仙台人往东京逃，东京人望大阪逃，大阪人往哪里逃

棒子国的救援队带的2条狗逃跑了一条动物的灵性感觉有危险？

嗯，动物的灵性在很多灾难前都已经被证实了。这个2012？

Erich · Mar 13th, 2011, 12:18

[10:39 a.m. ET, 11:39 p.m. Tokyo] A state of emergency has been declared at a nuclear power plant in Onagawa, Japan, where excessive radiation levels have been recorded following Friday's massive earthquake, the United Nations' atomic watchdog agency said Sunday.

Authorities have told the agency that the three reactor units at the Onagawa plant "are under control."

Erich · Mar 14th, 2011, 09:17

A quick summary of the nuclear crisis in Japan: The nuclear emergency following Friday's earthquake and tsunami has worsened, with the operators of the damaged Fukushima nuclear plant warning that they can't rule out a possible meltdown. The company says it's possible that cooling water at the number two reactor has evaporated, exposing the nuclear fuel rods. The BBC environment correspondent Richard Black says such an outcome would be very serious.

昨晚看了一个叫“日本沉没”的鬼子自拍烂片，福岛风景不错，鬼子自己也很乌鸦呀

Erich · Mar 14th, 2011, 10:45

#
1422: Japanese engineer Masashi Goto, who helped design the containment vessel for Fukushima's reactor core, says the design was not enough to withstand earthquakes or tsunamis and the plant's builders, Toshiba, knew this. More on Mr Goto's remarks to follow.
#
1426: Mr Goto says his greatest fear is that blasts at number 3 and number 1 reactors may have damaged the steel casing of the containment vessel designed to stop radioactive material escaping into the atmosphere. More to follow.
#
1431: More from Japanese nuclear engineer Masashi Goto: He say that as the reactor uses mox (mixed oxide) fuel, the melting point is lower than that of conventional fuel. Should a meltdown and an explosion occur, he says, plutonium could be spread over an area up to twice as far as estimated for a conventional nuclear fuel explosion. The next 24 hours are critical, he says.

－－－BBC

Erich · Mar 14th, 2011, 10:48

据说这种铀钚混合燃料的危害远大于别的核燃料，钚是当前发现的第二毒的物质，2克纯钚好像可以毒死2亿人....

Erich · Mar 14th, 2011, 10:49

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作者: 鲁莽电工

他没没有电力，核反应容器失控高压，水怎么灌得进去？灌进去的水立刻会被分解成氢氧，还需要放出来，放出来立即又爆炸，这个恶性循环没有办法终止。不灌水的话，彻底烧化，爆炸变成一大坨老毒物无人敢接近，毒害土壤空气，全日本人都不够死的，而且还拖累还里面的生物也变态。

灌海水很无聊，会造成不锈钢容器迅速腐...

关键是这种老式沸水堆冷却系统直接接触辐射，这玩艺要是出了问题加上使用海水冷却，估计太平洋就惨了...

Erich · Mar 14th, 2011, 13:18

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作者: dangbl

a、氢弹，原谅俺这个文科生，真没看懂他们说了半天重点在哪里，好像是扔一颗，轰，充分反应，危害降低，不过附近都是无人区鸟
　　
　　b、偷偷的，开个无人核潜艇摸到刚刚震完的地方，轰，神不知鬼不觉，就地解决（咳咳，据说介个是PLA内部讨论出来的最好方法，主要好在隐蔽，到时候大家记得众口一词的表示介个...

这个第二个就是冷战的时候前苏联对付日本和驻日美军基地的方案，也叫“地球物理武器计划”

Erich · Mar 14th, 2011, 20:03

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作者: dangbl

1422: Japanese engineer Masashi Goto, who helped design the containment vessel for Fukushima's reactor core, says the design was not enough to withsta...

这个我上午就看到了，当时第一个想法就是国内的电站的施工质量....

Erich · Mar 14th, 2011, 23:22

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0207: Addressing the nation, Prime Minister Naoto Kan says that "there is a high risk of futher radioactive material coming out".

#
0303: Radiation is 400 times the annual legal limit near Fukushima's reactor 3, the Kyodo news agency reports.

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0306: Winds over the stricken nuclear plant are blowing slowly towards the Kanto region, which includes Tokyo, Reuters reports.

Erich · Mar 15th, 2011, 01:24

切尔诺贝利是过了一段时间才封堆的，要是封堆霓虹就悲催了。这个事件里面关键的估计还是这个铀钚混合核燃料的危害，ms这个钚比较恐怖.....

政府的话从来都得打折扣来听，全世界都一样。希望在日本的华人们能安全撤离（现在看来东京24小时内就危险了）

Mar 12th, 2011, 23:23	#1
Erich Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 278	CNN的最新更新－meltdown NEW: "We see the possibility of a meltdown," official says [9:54 p.m. ET, 11:54 a.m. Tokyo] A meltdown may have occurred at at least one nuclear power reactor in Japan, the country's chief cabinet secretary, Yukio Edano, said Sunday. He also said that authorities are concerned over the possibility of another meltdown at a second reactor. "We do believe that there is a possibility that meltdown has occurred. It is inside the reactor. We can't see. However, we are assuming that a meltdown has occurred," he said of the No. 1 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear facility. "And with reactor No. 3, we are also assuming that the possibility of a meltdown as we carry out measures." Edano's comments confirm an earlier report from an official with Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, who said, "we see the possibility of a meltdown." A meltdown is a catastrophic failure of the reactor core, with a potential for widespread radiation release. However, Toshihiro Bannai, director of the agency's international affairs office, expressed confidence that efforts to control the crisis would be successful. 根据经验，政府说话从来都是留几分的，看样子很不乐观了
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Mar 13th, 2011, 00:52	#5
Erich Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 278 声望: 105430	干脆用老毛子以前设计对付小鬼子的地球物理武器直接把那几个岛陆沉掉算了，唐僧说”世界终于清静了“
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Mar 13th, 2011, 03:46	#9
Erich Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 278 声望: 105430	“大家都卖了房子、辞了工，取出钱来该吃吃点、该玩玩玩......”
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Mar 13th, 2011, 12:18	#12
Erich Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 278 声望: 105430	[10:39 a.m. ET, 11:39 p.m. Tokyo] A state of emergency has been declared at a nuclear power plant in Onagawa, Japan, where excessive radiation levels have been recorded following Friday's massive earthquake, the United Nations' atomic watchdog agency said Sunday. Authorities have told the agency that the three reactor units at the Onagawa plant "are under control."
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Mar 14th, 2011, 09:17	#13
Erich Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 278 声望: 105430	A quick summary of the nuclear crisis in Japan: The nuclear emergency following Friday's earthquake and tsunami has worsened, with the operators of the damaged Fukushima nuclear plant warning that they can't rule out a possible meltdown. The company says it's possible that cooling water at the number two reactor has evaporated, exposing the nuclear fuel rods. The BBC environment correspondent Richard Black says such an outcome would be very serious. 昨晚看了一个叫“日本沉没”的鬼子自拍烂片，福岛风景不错，鬼子自己也很乌鸦呀
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Mar 14th, 2011, 10:45	#14
Erich Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 278 声望: 105430	# 1422: Japanese engineer Masashi Goto, who helped design the containment vessel for Fukushima's reactor core, says the design was not enough to withstand earthquakes or tsunamis and the plant's builders, Toshiba, knew this. More on Mr Goto's remarks to follow. # 1426: Mr Goto says his greatest fear is that blasts at number 3 and number 1 reactors may have damaged the steel casing of the containment vessel designed to stop radioactive material escaping into the atmosphere. More to follow. # 1431: More from Japanese nuclear engineer Masashi Goto: He say that as the reactor uses mox (mixed oxide) fuel, the melting point is lower than that of conventional fuel. Should a meltdown and an explosion occur, he says, plutonium could be spread over an area up to twice as far as estimated for a conventional nuclear fuel explosion. The next 24 hours are critical, he says. －－－BBC
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Mar 14th, 2011, 10:48	#15
Erich Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 278 声望: 105430	据说这种铀钚混合燃料的危害远大于别的核燃料，钚是当前发现的第二毒的物质，2克纯钚好像可以毒死2亿人....
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Mar 14th, 2011, 23:22	#19
Erich Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 278 声望: 105430	# 0207: Addressing the nation, Prime Minister Naoto Kan says that "there is a high risk of futher radioactive material coming out". # 0303: Radiation is 400 times the annual legal limit near Fukushima's reactor 3, the Kyodo news agency reports. # 0306: Winds over the stricken nuclear plant are blowing slowly towards the Kanto region, which includes Tokyo, Reuters reports.
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Mar 15th, 2011, 01:24	#20
Erich Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 278 声望: 105430	切尔诺贝利是过了一段时间才封堆的，要是封堆霓虹就悲催了。这个事件里面关键的估计还是这个铀钚混合核燃料的危害，ms这个钚比较恐怖..... 政府的话从来都得打折扣来听，全世界都一样。希望在日本的华人们能安全撤离（现在看来东京24小时内就危险了）
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