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此言差亦!!我们现在8门课,除一门实习,一门实验室外,其他都是理论课,如:Roy's model, nursing theory, health care consumer, Anatoy, Lab theory, Sociology of Nursing 等等。这个专业的理论深度并不比计算机专业差,对语言的要求也很高,主要是在Clinical的时候,大部分时间都在与病人和其他医护人员交流,我们有一门专业课就是讲nursing communication。 还有就是中国人不见得就聪明,只不过更会考试罢了。老外也很刻苦,学习好的比比皆是,没有发现各个领域里面最初色的绝大多数都是白人吗? |
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可我怎么没有觉得计算机出来的本科生、研究生和博士生在工作的时候有什么太大的区别呢?非计算机专业的自学一段时间编程序也不赖;反倒是nursing的普通nurse和研究生、博士生差距很大,而且其他专业转nursing怎么也要学两年。尤其国内的计算机教育,很多都是落后的技术。nursing与计算机有很多相似之处的,比如:现在的学护士热与当年的计算机热一样;两个专业都是经验最重要;都是kind of labour;Globalization...... |
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说得极其有道理,呵呵,看我前面发的帖子确实说得前言不大后语,DNA老兄纠正的极是~! 老杨不要发脾气,实际上我们是同路人,你以前是学计算机的吧?我也是啊!不过我还是觉得nursing的理论还是很有深度的,因为我的一个朋友读就是4年的,学的比我们深多啦! 引用:
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比如我现在读的2年的确实比较浅,没有像原来听说的那么难,但很忙!!从开学第二周开始,周周至少一门考试,不算最后的期末考试,我们共有26多个大大小小的考试。现在我们班就有不少人drop或转成part-time的了,一是紧张,二是实习后很多人受不了nurse的工作环境。 无论是2-year or 4-year,都要做一些PSW的工作,多少而已。我们现在就几乎天天和粪便打交道,6点起床,7点赶到实习的nursing home为老人们擦身体,帮他们起床,喂他们吃饭,上药、换药、量体温、测血压......其他时间在学校看书、上课,准备各科考试。两个月前的第一次实习,当我打开病人的一次性尿布的时候,大脑一片空白~~,老师课上讲的该怎么做都忘了,就知道无助的看着实习老师。老师也知道这种情况会发生,走过来,一边做一边耐心指点我该如何处理;从第二天开始,一切就都自己做了。我还算好的,很多人都吐了,或吃不下饭。这是nurisng home,在医院的话工作要难很多,还要和血液、传染病等打交道,风险很大的。比如这周老师分配给我和我的partner一个有传染病的病人,我们在进入她的房间之前要做很多防护措施。趁老师不注意,我们多戴了两层手套! nursing的工作前景确实不错,可是大家最好认真考虑这个职业的特殊性,真的不是每个人都能干的;我们的实习小组原来共8人,有个小女孩不久就走了,她的名字我都来不及记~! 今天先写道这里吧,等再有时间我会把我看到的母语是非英语的一些护士在医院里的工作情况写出来。因为我那时才明白为什么很多人都说,考试成绩不是重要的,重要的是语言。 晚安! |
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我们班里有个原来国内做妇产科医生的,很多年的经验,确实学习起来省力多了,我常常向她请教,很厉害的说~~! 不过nurse的工作和医生的工作差很多,据她说,她自己对血液很适应,接生的时候闻到的血腥对她没有丝毫影响,可对现在病人的排泄物还没有完全适应。但总之,有过医学背景的学nursing很轻松,对将来的工作也非常有力。 很抱歉,我不能把Email留在这里,因为以前留过一次,结果就是在相当长的时间里每天都要回很多Email. 我会尽量做到抽出时间上来,遇到问题我能回答的我肯定回!(不管对不对,都回!!) |
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![]() Some of my teachers, registered nuses with 2-year diploma, are in certain upgrading courses, which need you 2 more years to get a bachelor degree. |
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I do hope more and more Chinese, especially from the main land, start to discuss some "elegant" jobs, like physician or lawyer, but not like nurse, electrician, or law clerk. I know it needs time, but we might as well take Jews as our role model -- always started from the very bottom of a society, and soon reached the very top after 2 or 3 generations. Let's fight our way to the top! |
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需要说话的地方就都是对语言有要求的地方。比如,每天早上给病人换药、擦身的时候,有任何发现都要马上告诉nurse in charge,描述你所看到的,或其他;一个病人看到同室的室友得到更多的关心,不高兴了,你观察到了就要马上采取措施,和她聊天,开导她,直到她高高兴兴的去吃饭......现在每天实习的大部分时间都在交流,和病人聊,和老师、同学聊,和护士聊。以后工作负责一个shift的话,交接班的时候要对每个病人的情况做详细的汇报;看到一个夜班护士,韩国人,每天早上7点的交接小会上做汇报,很难听懂,人名也念错,head nurse不停的要她重复;有一次这个护士没有show up,大家听的是她的录音,就更难懂了,结果听不到一半,就根本无法继续下去了。这个head nurse很有修养,没什么表情;但几个HCA就开始笑。当时很为她难过。 语言直接影响具体工作,现在我实习的nursing home白天工作看不到那个韩国人和据说也在这个楼层工作的中国人,她们都是晚班。晚班很辛苦,愿意做的很少很少,但我看到刚毕业的一个白人小护士,4月份毕业,5月份就开始上白班了。我确实感到有交流因素在里面,这也就不奇怪,为什么中国人毕业大多做夜班、周末班多,而语言好的多做白班。中国人毕业的护士起薪没有我知道的其他人的工资高。比如我认识的一个中国人Full-time PSW,起薪$9/hr,但我知道的好几个同学现在做part-time PSW的都在$12,13/hr以上; nurse也同样,薪水差很多。 语言的问题在学校上课、考试的时候,都没有很大的影响,都能读下来的。关键是工作。 |
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4-year RN: for the license of registered Nurse the graduates with 2-year dipploma are not eligible to write the RN register text in Ontario. |
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For as much as I can do is to provide the facts that what I've seen and what I've heard. Some facts are even worse than what I've put here, ex: the salarty thing, i've heard a Chinese in the RN of Ottawa U only got $17/hr. Some are much better, $30 or $30+/hr is not rare. ![]() Nursing communication is dead helpful!! --------------------------------------- Do you really want to take PSW, RPN or RN? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Think it twice, do not just consider the salary or career opportunity, I mean -- IF YOU 'RE WILLING TO BE A NURSE!? I'm taking RPN right now and doing clinical placement in a nursing home and a hospital (prenatal). I just started it this september and found it's super stressful, exactly as others told me before -- included clinical placement, totally 34 credit hours a week! But, but.....if you look at nursing only as a job, DO NOT TAKE IT! Which is much more than a job! On my first placement in a nursing home, i've already realized that nursing is a life-long care-giving! My first job was feeding, working with elders, some of them are semi-conscious. That's right, they are drooling, coughing or even incontinent. Do not expect when you enter a patient'r room, there is a nice smell greeting you. You'll face them everyday at work. If you get a job in hospital, the major tasks are recording, like blood pressure, temperature, urine excretion, and also do some bathing, feeding; in a short, you'll do almost every thing as PSW in hospital; if working in nursing home, you'll have some chances to do pills instead of bathing or feeding, but the salary is much poorer. So the main concern is, if you dont like those jobs, you'll get vomiting; if you feel those are disgusting, your job will make nothing good to you, and much worse to your patients! During these days in nursing home, i've already found some health care workers have no responsibility at all, and you know what's happening? Their patients, those miserable old people, refuse to eat, the only thing they can do to protest, "hunger strike"!! It's not surprised to hear that some seniors died quickly in nursing home due to those brutal health care workers! That is true. Why? They just treat their jobs as jobs. Do you love old people and have enough kindness to disables? Can you work in a disagreeable environment? Would you like to be a team-player, regardless of stress or risk? Are you willing to feed a drooling senior with incontinence? Think about it! If your answers are "no", please try another major, not only for you, but for the sake of those patients; if "yes", dear friends, please come and join us! We are short of hands, no matter PSW, RPN or RN! Who told you PSW is full? Nursing, this program is very stressful, but if you love it, you may complete it as long as you keep going! Nursing is holy! |
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I agree with some postings above exactly in the same way! Compared with other programs in my college, Practical nursing is one of the most stressful ones. However, the 4-year degree RN is much more intensive! Some friends in RN always tell me they are in a kind of nightmare, even English is their first language. And one of them has already decided to transfer to 2-year RPN next year. Salary: one newly graduate RPN once told me she gets $18.50/hr in the nursing home where i'm practicing. not bad a? Language: whatever you take language is always the key, not just for nursing. But which can be improved through your study and daily life. I know a lady started from PSW, then RPN, and now she's in RN. I'd like to encourage outsiders who are not very confident with their communication to try PSW first, which needs only a couple of months and gets effect instantly! When ready, go back to school and pick up RPN; want to move on, then RN! Don't be scared! |
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现在实习的时候,每天都感到nurse的人手很不够,一边看到的是有人说nursing的工作前景令人担忧,但事实上好像又不是这样――只要语言没问题,工作就没问题,尤其是能流利说两种或两种以上的语言的nurse。 要想学nursing的朋友,最好自己亲自去问问那些正在工作中的nurse,也有一些找不到工作,去近距离看看吧,眼见为实!如果决定要学,一定要想好是读2 year RPN or 4 year degree。 |
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好树结好果子,坏树结坏果子――这对判断人说出的话同样有效!
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