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旧 Dec 22nd, 2008, 12:02     #1
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想做苹果犯,首先要端正态度,远离盗版。
嘿嘿,苹果盗版不比windows的少,而且更容易。
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旧 Dec 22nd, 2008, 12:16     #2
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手写、软键盘,放大缩小,横竖屏,老早就有了,IPHONE的FANS也不能乱吹,IPHONE和MW的比较就象电脑的操作系统比较,是各有千秋,但window的应该好很多。应该说IPHONE的软件应用差MW的很多,但喜欢东西是不需要理由的。
我不清楚MW有多少app, 但是iPhone 3G在七月上市时, App Store里只有500个applications,仅仅五个月的时间,现在有超过一万个,对大多数人来说应该是有足够的选择的了。
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旧 Dec 22nd, 2008, 13:09     #3
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要是这么好,这世界上就没有微软了,所以肯定是WM功能强很多。IPHONE现在才有GPS,你说说可以用几种GPS软件?这方面跟MW真差的不是1点,简直是没法比。听歌?我现在用WM看MTV了,你买电脑就为看电视、电影?
真没必要因为自己买了就显出您的品味脱俗。不管你怎么吹,在软件选择上...
我觉得你应该先去app store上看看都有什么,GPS的软件太多了,看你要用作什么用途。另外iphone是可以装QQ的。
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旧 Dec 22nd, 2008, 18:48     #4
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不要看,肯定是象苹果电脑一样比WINDOWS的少很多,再说我用MW就没这么麻烦,上网随便你当,不要钱。所以说IPHONE肯定在很多方面很差。还是那话喜欢是不需要理由的。
很主观啊,有点玩艺术的味道,但是有很多想象的成分,所以说服力不强啊。
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您还没发现您自己的习性吗?贬低一些你自己不用的东西,这是题外话了,可能你性格就这样

貌似你通篇都在说apple store怎么怎么收钱了,我问一句,人家收钱怎么了?再说apple store有免费的资源啊,基本上收费的功能性软件都有免费版本的,没用过?

听说塞班的证书都暂停免费申请了,您...
windows explorer是管理文件的,而library是管理文件的属性。并不是所有人都理解这两者的区别的。
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旧 Dec 23rd, 2008, 23:14     #6
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国内统称"山寨"机,落伍了吧

看看这个和苹果的有甚区别阿?

http://www.shanzhaiji.cn/mobile/20081208/6327.html

这个没啥值得自豪的吧。把copycat当作所谓极致的追求,是一种悲哀吧;对copycat的夸耀,是对国人的智慧的侮辱吧。
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旧 Dec 24th, 2008, 09:10     #7
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Steve Jobs日前宣布,iPhone将采用Skyhook Wireless的Wi-Fi定位技术。人们容易把它看成是用于凑数的GPS。但在我看来,这是向下一代蜂窝定位技术迈出的第一步。
http://www.eeworld.com.cn/news/rfandwireless/200801/art...
你的信息太过时了,这个文章是2008年一月的,iPhone 3G还没出。看看这篇
http://www.apple.com/ca/iphone/features/gps.html

重点是这句

Get the signal.
In addition to A-GPS, iPhone 3G uses signals from GPS satellites, Wi-Fi hot spots, and cellular towers to get the most accurate location fast. If GPS is available, iPhone displays a blue GPS indicator. But if you’re inside — without a clear line of sight to a GPS satellite — iPhone finds you via Wi-Fi. If you’re not in range of a Wi-Fi hot spot, iPhone finds you using cellular towers. And the size of a location circle tells you how accurately iPhone is able to calculate that location: The smaller the circle, the more accurate the location.
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马克雷:我不喜欢苹果电脑

家里有几台电脑:一台PC,一台IMAC(苹果机),一台IBOOK(苹果笔记本)。

iMAC上装了BOOTCAMP, 也就是在苹果机上运行WINDOWS, 呵呵,那台笔记本也是同样。 看到这里苹果的死忠和稀饭们都已经把地板吐出血坑了。先让他们再吐一会,我来说说使用...
哈哈,一大活人居然给苹果给逼疯了。
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旧 Dec 25th, 2008, 09:46     #9
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前半部分你只是在东施效颦,邯郸学步,你要想自己的话有说服力,有杀伤力,得学会独立思考和语言组织能力。

不对称战争,你也不明白什么意思。

罪犯和嫌疑犯是个隐喻,你能理解成我做不成罪犯,你中文真行。

我没有并不代表我没有用过,还是那句话,你得好好学学中文。这世界上也不是只有你一个人有I...
哈哈,让我在你们的战场上再注入些新的火药。。。

其实这样的争论是完全没有意义的,手机也好,OS也好,宗教也好,艺术也好,一旦落入过分主观的套套里就没有结果了。但是就其过程而言,即使是没有结果的争论,但争论者的知识,修养倒也会引起惺惺相惜之情。我以为,你让人感到不服气也是有原因的,

对iPhong的一知半解,导致盲人摸象般的结论,特别是GPS那块,简直不会让人觉得你的话有任何说服力。所以很容易让人有这样的想法,为什么会对一些不了解的东西枉下结论呢?

再者从一开始就将付钱就是受剥削连在一起,就有打击别人的意思。其实每个人的想法都不同,每个人的情况也不同。其实收费和免费的服务都是在提供不同的选择。让人在适当的时候作出满意的选择。就说昨天晚上,和家人在聊天,突然聊起很久时候看过的电影Jingle All the Way, 儿子没看过,想看。在那个时候对我来说最快最好的选择就是用iTunes去租来看。全家有一个快乐的夜晚,即使被剥削四块钱又有何妨。音乐也是一样,我喜欢的一些北欧的歌曲都是从iTunes上买来的,这些歌很冷门自己很喜欢,而Apple的Music Store上有,要不要买?

你的技术怎样其实不重要,只是这种一厢情愿的态度倒是有点难以接受。

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呵呵,基本出发点就差距太大(俺认为电脑首先是消费品,技术是为应用服务的)。没啥好讨论的了。

微软不明白为啥苹果受欢迎,为啥微软做出来的东西尤其是界面跟苹果差距巨大,就是因为这个概念不同。
的确如此,在设计上,其实技术已经不是最重要的了,visibility & usability才是。
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旧 Jan 7th, 2009, 11:21     #11
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oaklet, fair say

总之,我们要客观评价产品,公司,不要带个人感情因素。俺不会因为使用某个公司产品,就说他们好话,也不会因为不使用谁的产品,就说他们的坏话。

实事求是比较好
其实每个人都在实事求是,但是每个人的立足点都不同。没有必要人为别人不同意你的观点,就不是实事求是了。
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旧 Jan 7th, 2009, 12:12     #12
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你这话里,有什么技术根据,或者事实来说明你的观点?典型的狡辩
哈哈,你好象看不懂"立足点"这个词的意思。技术是你的立足点。我的立足点不是技术,不需要技术根据,懂吗?
要事实吗?除了技术外你还需要什么样的事实呢?有人喜欢带点绿色的黄色,也有人喜欢带点蓝色的红色,是不是事实呢?有人喜欢吃肉,有人喜欢吃草,这是不是事实呢?有人喜欢技术,有人不喜欢技术,这是不是事实呢?
当谈到visibility 和 usability的时候,是个很主观的东西。这些都是你接受不了的事实。
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实事求是地说,这个世界上大部分人,都无法客观的看问题
是自我批评吗?

没有关系啦。有时候理解能力差点没啥,技术好就行。
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举不出来,不就完了么?再强辩还不是狡辩?

俺举出了那些windows的技术特点,竟然一个苹果犯一个苹果的好处也说不出来?这世道
我老妈是苹果的fans,原因很简单,没有病毒,不要动不动就重装。老式的G5上装了新的OS,也不会慢。
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又一个鸡同鸭讲。

我给你总结一下啊。

ie赢了是因为com,netscape和ff到现在都做不到
微软从dec请来了做os的来做NT,所以NT是先进的
95 98不稳定因为共享代码空间,不过那是条件所限,不硬上,这是明智的,等条件成熟了,推出了内存空间独立...
我才想用"鸡同鸭讲"这个词,居然被你先用了。
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哦,原来你是捍卫你妈呀
你会不会"捍卫你妈"我管不着,也不想往那儿扯。你不是要实事求是吗?
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你不觉的你自己好笑,用你妈来证明那个系统好,哈哈哈

这种辩论法,还要说什么“实事求是”?
你在躲避我说的事实啊。好用的东西就是最好的东西。
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旧 Jan 7th, 2009, 13:40     #18
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世界上90%的人用windows,包括很多多的小孩和老人,你怎么说?

哈哈
这么又往别的地方扯,理解力这么差?看看我说的事实 - "没有病毒,不要动不动就重装。老式的G5上装了新的OS,也不会慢"。

你技术怎样我不知道,但跑题的能力一流。
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旧 Jan 7th, 2009, 13:44     #19
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你改口也不对呀

“微软从dec请来了做os的来做NT,所以NT是先进的”不是俺说的,也不是本人的意思

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对呀,windows总设计师就是dec出来的,所以windows的技术水平不可能低,不过是设计时另有考虑...
讨教一下,那你这句的意思是什么?
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旧 Jan 7th, 2009, 13:57     #20
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哈哈,教教你们,省得总作SB,出洋相

俺说得是“windows的技术水平”,而不是评价整个系统。系统不通应用,有不同的要求,无法一言而论,作绝对评价

这位老兄说的很明白了
http://www.chinasmile.net/forums/sho...hp?p=2745574&a...
重算懂你的意思了,原来系统慢点,病毒多点,也是因为"系统不通应用,有不同的要求"。MS应该请你去做marketing,在这儿混,太委屈。
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